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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2003, 09:41:00 AM »
Hey, who's knocking it! I'm sort of counting on the Rye Whiskey industry to kick back into full swing here in this Mon River Valley just as soon as enough ppl get fed up with federal and state controls to, once again, just ignore the silly bastards. This is, after all, the seat of the Whiskey Rebellion. That was not about ppl wanting to get drunk. It was a lot more like the current battle between the Cocaleros and the Bolivian/US government.

If you check out local W. PA beer companies (Brown, Yuengling, Augustiner, Pgh Brewing Company) you'll find that most of them BRAG in their company histories of continual operation right through Prohibition. And you might also notices that Keystone Beer has adopted the nicknames, "Stoneys" and, in some markets, even "Stoners". We have supply trucks creeping around these winding mountain roads that just say "Stoneys" on the back. No logo, no explanation, just the word. Every yenzer knows what it means.

In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2008, 08:22:35 AM »
Quote from: ""Antigen""
You Might Be a Fascist

by Russell Madden

Fascism: a political-economic system in which citizens retain title to their property but in which the government determines how that property may or may not be used.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . believe that the proper way to decide whether a casino should be built in your hometown is to vote on the idea.



. . . object to individuals gambling in their homes . . . unless they're playing the state-run lotto.



. . . think that your neighbor needs the blessing of the historical commission in order to renovate his aging home.



. . . feel the urge to report the guy down the street who has a painting truck parked in his drive but no orange building permit stuck to a front window.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . experienced a sense of glee when Microsoft had to spend millions in legal fees and was convicted of monopolistic policies.



. . . see nothing wrong with your city government awarding a single cable franchise while those guys who sell dishes must charge extra to customers who wish to receive local broadcast channels.



. . . are grateful that the FCC dictates to cable and phone providers how they can do business because you are afraid that otherwise the big media companies would have too much power.



. . . would rather have the government pass a law and set up another bureaucracy to restrict telemarketers than spend fifty bucks of your own money to purchase a screening device.



. . . do not object when others are forced to pay more for their goods so you can earn a higher income while your trade restrictions put other citizens out of work.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . nod in agreement that individuals must show proof of identity in order to open a bank account because otherwise the terrorists will win.



. . . don't object to money laundering laws that make snitches of your banks so the drug dealers and the terrorists won't win.



. . . never complain about airport security checks and bag screening and weapon confiscation in order to keep the terrorists from winning.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . tremble at the thought that the person sitting next to you in the restaurant might be carrying a gun without a license.



. . . want to eliminate and confiscate all guns in private hands in order to be safe since guns cause violence, unless the cops are the ones carrying the guns.



. . . applaud extra taxes on guns and ammunition, prohibition of sales between private parties, licenses for gun dealers, limits on the number of firearms someone can own or buy, and bans on brass knuckles, nunchucks, pen knives, big knives, pepper spray, stun guns, sword canes, or anything else that can be used to defend against a criminal.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . laughed when an aging hippie comedian who sold drug paraphernalia via the Internet was thrown in jail but thought a well-known talk show host addicted to painkillers should receive rehab.



. . . accept the widespread drugging of young boys but recoil in horror from the thought of adults receiving pleasure or relief from illicit drugs.



. . . champion zero tolerance for kids who bring toy soldiers to school but think the heroes at Ruby Ridge and Waco got what they deserved when they were promoted for killing women and children.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . think that taxes are the price we pay for civilization.



. . . smile when the rich have to pay an even greater proportion of taxes than they do now.



. . . kid yourself that Social Security and Medicare taxes are investments or premiums rather than a way to pay for more welfare for old people.



. . . maintain that you have a right to health care, housing, retirement income, food stamps, or government-guaranteed student loans.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . squint your eyes at the idea of parents educating their children at home.



. . . want child-free people to pay for your offspring's schooling because everyone benefits.



. . . question the ability of parents to decide what their kids should study, whether those youngsters should go to school, at all, or how they should learn to make their own ways in the world.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . seek assistance from the government to protect you from your own mistakes.



. . . ask the government to protect other people from what you believe are their own mistakes.



. . . abhor the thought of foreigners flooding your country and taking jobs you don't want at wages you would refuse to accept.



. . . contend that you have a right to a job but an employer does not have the right to fire you because he doesn't like the fact that you're a woman, a racial minority, fat, or handicapped.



. . . think SUV's should be banned, seat belts and airbags required, gas mileage minimums enforced, gasoline formulations determined by the feds, and that more money should be spent on light rail systems that no one uses.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . see all lawyers as heroes.



. . . hope to win the lawsuit lottery.



. . . refuse to accept that legal questions can be properly answered by anyone other than a state-accredited lawyer.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . like the notion of mandated low-flow toilets and shower heads but see no problem with subsidized water so farmers or residents can work and live in deserts.



. . . rejoice that grease monkeys can no longer put Freon in your air conditioner.



. . . sneer at anything smacking of price gouging during disasters such as floods or hurricanes and would rather have shortages of goods than see someone make more than what you believe is a fair price.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . promote the idea of the government owning even more wilderness land.



. . . are appalled that oil companies might drill offshore for natural gas.



. . . wonder what all the fuss is when homeowners are forced to abandon their houses in the woods when the government destroys the access roads.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . support sending our troops to a foreign country that poses no imminent threat to us in order to liberate the natives and engage in nation-building.



. . . declare that foreign aid helps the average citizens of those countries that receive it.



. . . want others to pay for your humanitarian impulses.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . would rather police focus their efforts on arresting ticket scalpers and prostitutes than on tracking down, convicting, and incarcerating violent criminals.



. . . want to impose your moral code on strangers.



. . . itch to make other people act as you believe they should act.



. . . do not accept that we still have involuntary servitude in this nation.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . operate from the premise that morality is relative.



. . . condemn logic, reason, and objectivity as tools of white male oppression.



. . . equate non-coercive choice and actions of which you disapprove with fascism.



You might be a fascist if you . . .



. . . object to the examples in this essay.



. . . think you are free.





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See Russ Madden's articles, short stories, novel excerpts, and items of interest to Objectivists, libertarians, and sci-fi fans at http://home.earthlink.net/~rdmadden/webdocs/.



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from The Laissez Faire Electronic Times, Vol 2, No 42, October 27, 2003

Editor: Emile Zola     Publisher: Digital Monetary Trust

http://zolatimes2.com/

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A better theme uniting these questions is: if one doesn’t agree with any of the ideas listed, one is a “extremist libertarian.â€
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2008, 12:36:29 PM »
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a rather bleak outlook on life huh?  Just go move to another part of the world and see that alothough our system is pretty fucked up, It is a hell of a lot better than any other government our there.  You should get a grip.  My ungrateful friend.


i'm sorry to dissapoint you, but we DO NOT have a better system, and there ARE other countries with better systems. how about: Canada, Netherlands, germany, greece, romania, iceland, switzerland, Sweden, norway, denmark, finland, belgium, and luxembourg. in all those countries, people have more basic civil rights and general freedom than the United states. those countries enjoy greater privacy, economic opportunity (ever since the dollar fell, and the E.U came around), public education, welfare, healthcare, name an issue they got it better than the U.S. most of those countries follow the ideas of the US founding fathers closer than the US does themselves.

and about military, the U.S, although big and armed to the teeth, is useless. it's all about intelligence. the U.S armed services are compromised of some of the dumbest most uneducated people in the world. the CIA is compromised of people who got C's and B's in their respective fields - if they got better grades they wouldn't be working for the CIA, a private company would have snatched them up for a higher salary before the cia. and the marines...damn...i have never met such dumb people in my life. i'm scared to think that those people are the ones supposed to protect my country. HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PROTECT A COUNTRY IF THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING FIND IT ON A MAP!!!!????

i think all the gung-ho patriotic people are forgetting we've lost every conflict we've been in since WWII, and every single covert operation has turned on us. it's Because the U.S has a dumb army and even dumber bunch of officers, leaders, and "intelligence" people.

compare that to Israel. they have the highest average I.Q of any army in the world, and the average private is much more educated than a high-ranking officer in the U.S army. and look what the result has been....look up the 6-day war - they won against egypt, syria, jordan, (all had soviet backup), and bombed Iraq and won the war in SIX DAYS.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2008, 01:51:23 PM »
Mike trying to take on Ginger now?
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2008, 01:57:00 PM »
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Mike trying to take on Ginger now?

What?
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2008, 03:04:13 PM »
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compare that to Israel. they have the highest average I.Q of any army in the world, and the average private is much more educated than a high-ranking officer in the U.S army. and look what the result has been....look up the 6-day war - they won against egypt, syria, jordan, (all had soviet backup), and bombed Iraq and won the war in SIX DAYS.


Israel won in '67 by destroying the arab air forces on the ground in pre-emptive strikes.  They also had the advantage of the US supplying them with A-4s from the Mediterranean when the Israeli birds were knocked out of the sky with SAMs.  In the '73 war, the US brought Israeli commandos to the US, trained them and armed them with TOW missiles, and sent them back to the middle-east to knock out Arab tanks.  The Israelis currently use American-made AH-64 helicopters to perform assassinations, and US-made F-16s to perform an array of other monstrous tasks.  Their armed forces have lost twice to Hizbollah in twenty years.
Israel is just another western colonial country, heavily dependent on the US.
Back to who might be a Facsist.  Mussolini, the OG Facsist, said himself that facsism might better be referred to as corporatism.  The Facsist government is dependent on the support of large and powerful corporations.  Madden seems to like large powerful corporations.  The most successful Ford outfits in the thirties were the ones in Germany, where those freedom-loving democracy-champs had crushed the unions, because only facsists believe that syndicalism has any place in the world.  True believers in democracy know that Joe-working stiff should negotiate his wage with Human Resources from the multi-national himself, not via some pinko union.  Always love the advanced thinking of the libertarian, or Ayn Randian objectivist.  Neo-cons use the term "fuzzy-thinking" to describe anyone's analysis of economics that goes against theirs.  I'm  partial to referring to objectivism or libertarianism as cunt-headed dipshitism.
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2008, 04:14:57 PM »
Is Gookin giving you Hebrew lessons?
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2008, 06:28:17 PM »
Shalom.

Wanna get some Israeli Commandos after Peninsula village or Tranquility Bay?
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2008, 02:33:05 AM »
Too risky, given Israel's unfamiliarity with programs. Now if PV and TB were to relocate to Isfahan and Bushehr...
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2008, 02:43:03 AM »
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Too risky, given Israel's unfamiliarity with programs. Now if PV and TB were to relocate to Isfahan and Bushehr...
And you would know?  Hoping?
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2008, 02:48:48 AM »
I can't tell you that.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2008, 04:08:55 AM »
So what do we call the people who complain and bitch about our country and the way it's run, but then turn around and cash their welfare checks?

Or disability checks..or food stamps?

Our laws and government are not perfect...that's a given.






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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2008, 07:14:12 AM »
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So what do we call the people who complain and bitch about our country and the way it's run, but then turn around and cash their welfare checks?

Or disability checks..or food stamps?

Our laws and government are not perfect...that's a given.
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Don't you mean "what do we call the people who complain and bitch about our country and the way it's run, but then turn around and live in their ivory elitist towers, and eat their French cheese?

Try to keep your smooth cortexed brain's propaganda induced illusions consistent.

You should thank cynical political strategists for your infantile-ego driven, Stockholm Syndrome induced, nonsensical definition of, and way of thinking about "this country". But if you want to help your masters, don't post your double- think on this forum, and scare off the uninitiated
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2008, 08:02:21 AM »
Atlas Shrugged’s an airport novel for educated people. It's page to page clichés, one dimensional characters, heavy handed statements where "you are told" reality, vs. " shown" reality, and the rafter-shaking sex of gorgeous, rich people

That, however, was enough to get Atlas into HSs, colleges, & book reviews, as it is a love poem to totally-unrestrained capitalism. One chapter describes a child who needs oral surgery. The narrator, or Ann Rand stand in, in the most self-righteous, horrified tone imaginable, describes that the state is forced to pay for dental care of "the ugly brat" because her father’s a farmer too poor to pay for it.

A state that pays for the medical care of poor children is Rand’s version of a dystopian nightmare. You can imagine how useful this is to a monetarily, socio-politically elite segment of our society….It equates horror with (dum-dum-dum) “socialized medicine.â€
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2008, 08:44:44 AM »
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You Might Be a Fascist

You might be a fascist if you . . .


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. . . question the ability of parents to decide what their kids should study, whether those youngsters should go to school, at all, or how they should learn to make their own ways in the world.


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--Galileo Galilei




I guess that means if you don't think kids should be imprisoned in cedu, desisto, the straights, you're a fascist.

And, please, don't mention PV and TB in the same breath. One's, apparently, a restraint-happy hospital, and the other's a torture cult. Being starved, beaten by a bunch of kids because you don't tie your shoelace fast enough, and then have these kids who beat you then get to "help decide" if you can call your parents, or being forced  into public nudity and hosed down doesn't compare to a poorly run hospital. Don't minimize what my brother experienced, in that way.
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