If you could confront your abuser face to face, would you?

[Anonymous]

I smell who ressurection

Why, yes. Rather than rethink the alleged "therapeutic aspects," it would appear that tragedy has made him all that more committed. A sad story indeed.

[Anonymous]

Your dental industry analogy is pretty ridiculous. I don't think anyone is saying that EVERY single place that claims to help kids should be shut down. If you'd like to use the dental industry comparison, then a more realistic analogy would be, say, a dental clinic - where most (if not, all) of the staff had fake qualifications from non-accredited universities and really didn't know what the hell they were doing. In the clinic, patients were often abused and the abuse was condoned, concealed and unreported. If such a clinic existed- ABSOLUTELY, it should be shut down and every single one of those "dentists" should never be allowed to work with "teeth" again.

[try another castle]

If such a clinic existed- ABSOLUTELY, it should be shut down and every single one of those "dentists" should never be allowed to work with "teeth" again.

psh.. helloooo? Western Dental. I can't possibly be the only one on these boards who's had to go there at least once.


Certified or not, I felt like I was in the motherfucking marathon man... if the nazi makes you wait for three hours, that is.

I smell who ressurection

You're right. This one totally writes like him. Probably is. Especially that whole "letting others prosper"  bullshit.

[TheWho]

Your dental industry analogy is pretty ridiculous. I don't think anyone is saying that EVERY single place that claims to help kids should be shut down..........

I dont think everyone here wants to shut down every program, but there are some that think since they were abused in one program then they are all bad.  Just like the Dentist analogy.  We could just as easily use samanila in peanutbutter as an example.  The ongoing investigation isnt trying to put an end to people ever eating peanut butter again.  They want to weed out and expose the problem areas and shut them down and/or redefine regulation to prevent it from happening again.  I am sure they will find poorly trained workers and owners trying to increase their profit margin as contributing causes.
Trying to protest and shut down the entire peanutbutter industry is not the right way to go.  People would still try to purchase it on the black market which would put the kids at an even greater risk of getting a poisonous batch.
The same goes for the teen help industry.

[Anonymous]

I dont think everyone here wants to shut down every program, but there are some that think since they were abused in one program then they are all bad. Just like the Dentist analogy. We could just as easily use samanila in peanutbutter as an example. The ongoing investigation isnt trying to put an end to people ever eating peanut butter again. They want to weed out and expose the problem areas and shut them down and/or redefine regulation to prevent it from happening again. I am sure they will find poorly trained workers and owners trying to increase their profit margin as contributing causes.
Trying to protest and shut down the entire peanutbutter industry is not the right way to go. People would still try to purchase it on the black market which would put the kids at an even greater risk of getting a poisonous batch.
The same goes for the teen help industry.

^^^^  :guesswho:  Classic Hooter: bad analogy, faulty logic.

[Anonymous]

Straight was a loving place of hope and healing where people could work on their drug and alcohol problems with some dignity and pride. Your  supportive family network is willing to work on themselves to help  reconnect with you in spite of the relationships that you once ruined  with them. A team of professional staff members to help and assist you  and your loved ones through the long and painful recovery process. Are  you diseased individuals? Yes. Are you the lowest form of life on  Earth? I`m afraid so. Do you need a time out from society because of  all the bridges you have burned because of your addictions? Without a  druggie doubt. Upon graduation you may even wish to serve on the  honorable staff and help other addicts with their problems. If you  prove you are a worthy example to others you might be accepted to join  this ring of Honor called "Staff." Is Straight confrontational? Yes  but only in a tough love way and if you complete the program you will  come to understand that the sweet is never as sweet without the sour.  I wish you well as you take this brave and unpredictable journey of recovery and discovery.

Im not an addict, never was and never will be. the only "disease" I have is high blood pressure.

Seriously go fuck yourself with your generalizations about people on this forum, I'm sick and tired of it. You clearly know nothing about us personally and have a warped general perception of your former clients. Regardless of what you have convinced yourself about the people who denounce your now defunct child torturing cult, the evidence of existing abuse in these places is undeniable. You have to be completely out of your mind to refuse to see that.

You don't have to cuss, young lady. Don't make me wash your mouth out with soap! Our group therapy sessions plumb the blackest depths of the human heart. Jeez, kids need tough love -- it's been proven time and again, over the course of many centuries. Get a clue! How could all of our research and experiments be wrong? They are not! Our program is a shining success, despite people like you shitting on it on this forum. You think you know it all, don't you? Well, you obviously don't!! Have a great day!!!

[Anonymous]

TACTIC 1. The individual is prepared for thought reform through increased suggestibility and/or "softening up," specifically through hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as: A. Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills; B. Excessive exact repetition of routine activities; C. Decreased sleep; D. Nutritional restriction.

TACTIC 2. Using rewards and punishments, efforts are made to establish considerable control over a person's social environment, time, and sources of social support. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered. (In the forerunner to coercive persuasion, brainwashing, this was rather easy to achieve through simple imprisonment.)

THIS IS WHAT THESE TEEN PLACES ARE ALL ABOUT!!! MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT! IT IS CRIMINAL BUT WE ALL KNOW HOW MANY CRIMES GOES UNPUNISHED EVERYDAY! PROTECT OUR CHILDREN PLEASE!

TACTIC 3. Disconfirming information and nonsupporting opinions are prohibited in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An "in-group" language is usually constructed.

TACTIC 4. Frequent and intense attempts are made to cause a person to re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject's basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control, and defense mechanisms as well as getting them to reinterpret their life's history, and adopt a new version of causality.

TACTIC 5. Intense and frequent attempts are made to undermine a person's confidence in himself and his judgment, creating a sense of powerlessness.

TACTIC 6. Nonphysical punishments are used such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety, manipulation and other techniques for creating strong aversive emotional arousals, etc.

TACTIC 7. Certain secular psychological threats [force] are used or are present: That failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief, or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequence, (e.g. physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.).

[TheWho]

I am not big fan of all this thought reform, brow beating etc. This was fine for the 1970’s and 80’s  and was the latest thing but today I would Opt out of programs which utilize Tactics 1 thru 7 and try to get the child into a highly structured program where they will be safe and away from their present toxic environment, one which will also expose them to academics and give them a chance to grow emotionally.

[FemanonFatal2.0]

despite people like you shitting on it on this forum.

Haha, If I were interested in just cussing I would have said a word like "shit" but I told you to go fuck yourself... meaning take your dick, pinch it between your legs, curl your dick around your balls and shove it up your ass.

Comprende?

[TheWho]

lol, Femanon, you describe it so well.  Up until about 5 years ago I was actually able to do that.

[try another castle]

lol, Femanon, you describe it so well.  Up until about 5 years ago I was actually able to do that.

oh my god  you lucky son of a bitch.


Of course, it was predictable that I would comment on this.

[TheWho]

I always took Femanon as the "Life time movie channel" type.  I can see she heads right to the back of the video store upon entering. Kinda cool

[Anonymous]

I used to be able to do that as a kid, but now my balls get in the way.

[TheWho]

I used to be able to do that as a kid, but now my balls get in the way.

Thats because you are trying to go over the scrotum.  Femanon says you need to route it around the balls and I believe she knows what she is talking about.  You do gain about 2 inches more the way Femanon describes it.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely

I would love to confront them especially Art. He made me have a total hysteractomy at the age of 17, treated me with contempt and sexual abuse. He kicked me one time so hard I bled from my rectum for weeks. It was pure torture. I was emotionally abused for 5 friggin years and sadly did not know where to go until I finally got brave and left in the dark of night. he manipulated me, made me watch porn movies, told me I was no good. I fell in love at the seed with a guy named Kenny and thought the world would finally be okay Art screwed that up and had Kenny marry someone else, That was when he married John Perloff off to Cindy, Libby to some scum bag etc. I hated it. I was called names, humiliated etc. ANYONE who says the seed is good is still lost and messed up. YES I would love to get in his face. Do you know what it feels like to find out years later that no way can I have kids because some scum bag told me to have an operation I had no understanding of? The repercussion of that place are horrendous. I was haunted for years and this is only the beginning of the story. Contact me I will do it!

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Upon doing so I will reveal who I am and all that happened.