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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2007, 11:09:54 PM »
Already did-that's how I found it.
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2007, 11:17:53 PM »
dude.  Even I only know his real first name... and it ain't dan... Nobody uses it in public.  A lot of people would like to seriously get even with him (such as Sue Sue)...  I don't blame him for wanting to remain anon. That bitch is crazy  ::bangin::
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2007, 11:24:59 PM »
That's a good reason to be more careful then. If I wanted to post it I would have in my first post.
If I could find it, then so could other people. Just letting ya know.
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2007, 11:27:45 PM »
dan_the_chainsawman@yahoo.com

I invite you to email me this name.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2007, 11:37:45 PM »
Sure, why not...
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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2007, 01:51:13 PM »
Jena's sure been "traveling" a long time, hasn't she?

Fucking LOL.

Where are these cocksuckers hanging out now, I wonder?

Let's find them and humiliate them. Again.
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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2007, 04:50:59 PM »
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Jena's sure been "traveling" a long time, hasn't she?

Fucking LOL.

Where are these cocksuckers hanging out now, I wonder?

Let's find them and humiliate them. Again.


I know for a fact Jena was online during her "vacation".  Her being "gone" is an excuse by Lon to explain why Karen's blatant attacks weren't moderated.  This went on for weeks.  How do I know Jena was online?  Becuase Even though they banned me, since I never logged out, I could still refresh the browser and see who was online.  It seems to be a bug / security flaw in UBB classic.  I used Safari to actually read the site and archive pages.  When Karen announced she and exhausted were acting up on purpose to test whether Lon would enforce his "rules" on parents... BOOM.. the site went down damn near instantly.  I didn't get a chance to see it but i've heard what it said.  Lon was probably pretty pissed to find out he got played by his own (former) cheerleaders.  Now all the parents are on my site, still posting, and not surprisingly expressing different opinions now that they feel they can speak freely.  A lot of them are publicly expressing their complaints about their kids' programs...  Without communications control, program implodes.  Censorship generally only works if people realize they are seeing censored information.  The parents didn't realize until lon banned me repeatedly without cause, that they weren't being permitted to see every side of the story.  As GoldenGuru (think it was her.. have to check my archives at home) noted, it's an insult to her intelligence.  Most of them are starting to talk about how they were lied to openly, program names are getting named, people's opinions are shifting as the truth comes out, and being able to talk to survivors in a safe enviornment will hopefully help heal the relationships with their kids.

Programs only exist with parents willing to send their kids to a TBS, and they are much more likely to listen to the experiences of other parents.  Fornits is great for uncensored dialogue and free speech, but without protection from attacks, it is less appealing to parents (and some survivors actually...  take the KIDS forum for example).

I cannot emphasize how much of an important purpose fornits plays, however.  My site (for the moment.. working on it) is hosted on a free board which has much less legal protection against people like Izzy an Sue than Ginger has.  Personally, I am worried about counter-attacks from Izzy (in lieu of my online postings... nothing illegal), so I am increasing the priority on my todo list of moving SP to a dedicated hosting solution.  It will also allow me to customize and secure the forum.
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« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2007, 07:04:40 PM »
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I cannot emphasize how much of an important purpose fornits plays, however.  


You are right! According to recently released reports, fornits is having a significant impact on the teen program industry.



Keep up the good work everyone!
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« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2007, 06:41:22 AM »
I saw the tide turn on ST's parent forum about 6 - 8 months ago.  In general there was more ambivalent and negative feedback about program placement.  And when psy brought such intelligent and first hand experience to the discussion, I think Lon freaked.  How can you host a forum that is counterproductive to one's living?  Ya can't.

It is unfortunate that the site is closed.  I have my doubts that it will be resurrected.  Parents do need information and the experience of other parents to be dissuaded from program placement.  I hope that parents find their way to strugglingpeople and then eventually here.
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« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2007, 08:03:07 AM »
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The parents didn't realize until lon banned me repeatedly without cause, that they weren't being permitted to see every side of the story. As GoldenGuru (think it was her.. have to check my archives at home) noted, it's an insult to her intelligence. Most of them are starting to talk about how they were lied to openly, program names are getting named, people's opinions are shifting as the truth comes out, and being able to talk to survivors in a safe enviornment will hopefully help heal the relationships with their kids.


This is so key.  I think some of the parents, perhaps more than some, felt that the censorship on Lon's board was more of an anti-bad language type, or anti-hostile attitude.  To find out, on a most visceral level, that the censorship broadly extended to content, must be a real eye-opener.  Yeah, it is a real insult to their intelligence, and their ability to make informed choices.

This is so great, psy.  My hat's off to you!
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« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2007, 12:11:31 PM »
You just don't get it do you guys.

ST was a setup, a con, a trap designed to suck in the likes of you and other advocates to keep them busy with relatively meaningless debate and "work" while the real programs proliferate and the money is being made.
A caterpillar told me this.
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« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2007, 01:19:45 PM »
As dry and prosaic as that board seemed at first glance, I wouldn't doubt it.
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« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2007, 04:58:38 PM »
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I saw the tide turn on ST's parent forum about 6 - 8 months ago.  In general there was more ambivalent and negative feedback about program placement.  And when psy brought such intelligent and first hand experience to the discussion, I think Lon freaked.  How can you host a forum that is counterproductive to one's living?  Ya can't.

It is unfortunate that the site is closed.  I have my doubts that it will be resurrected.  Parents do need information and the experience of other parents to be dissuaded from program placement.  I hope that parents find their way to strugglingpeople and then eventually here.



I noticed this too.

It really makes you wonder if the likes of Luke, Paul, Milk, and the other violently posters who want to make survivors look bad were really Lon and his supporters.
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« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2007, 05:03:04 PM »
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You just don't get it do you guys.

ST was a setup, a con, a trap designed to suck in the likes of you and other advocates to keep them busy with relatively meaningless debate and "work" while the real programs proliferate and the money is being made.
A caterpillar told me this.


Perhaps, but the situation could still backfire on them, eh?
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« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2007, 05:14:33 PM »
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Quote from: ""Truth Searcher""
I saw the tide turn on ST's parent forum about 6 - 8 months ago.  In general there was more ambivalent and negative feedback about program placement.  And when psy brought such intelligent and first hand experience to the discussion, I think Lon freaked.  How can you host a forum that is counterproductive to one's living?  Ya can't.

It is unfortunate that the site is closed.  I have my doubts that it will be resurrected.  Parents do need information and the experience of other parents to be dissuaded from program placement.  I hope that parents find their way to strugglingpeople and then eventually here.


I noticed this too.

It really makes you wonder if the likes of Luke, Paul, Milk, and the other violently posters who want to make survivors look bad were really Lon and his supporters.


This was exposed a while ago by some intrepid  internet researchers.
In case anyone missed it...

Three Springs Waygookin also posts as:
Milk Gargling Death Penalty
Luke Stephens
Paul Smith
Nihilistic
Ursus
hanzomon
TheWho

This forum only has about four posters who want to make it seem like there is a lot of discussion going o here. I could go on but I know you will not believe me because I do not put so much time into fooling you as they do.
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