Author Topic: "Intervention" Program  (Read 19287 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline juniper2

  • Posts: 307
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2006, 01:04:40 PM »
According to parents, they are not informed exactly what "Intervention"
entails....It sounds like the children are basically subjected to the 'whims'
of those they are 'entrusted to....
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: Interventions
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2006, 01:05:19 PM »
Quote from: ""guest10""
According to another mother,  her son and another boy were forced to carry a very heavy metal pipe on their shoulders through the
woods in near freezing temperatures wearing only a tee-shirt and jeans.  The weather was  wet so their clothing got saturated as
did their sleeping bags.  They had no shelter so they slept in the
frigid weather out in the open.  They were given minimal food.  This intervention
lasted 5 days and by the end of it this one boy had lost approximately 15 pounds and was seriously ill with a high fever.
If this is not child abuse and endangerment I don't know what is.


I remember that. That was right after I graduated, and one of boys was a very good friend of mine. It was kind of my fault that he went, and I still feel horrible about it after hearing everything that happened while he was there... Even though Ridge Creek is longer, (28 days), I would much rather do that than the interventions. All of what this person says above, was exactly what I heard happened, over 2 years ago.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
what REALLY happens on interventions
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2006, 11:18:47 PM »
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Please Clarify...
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2006, 12:00:15 AM »
Who iwas the only good man??? Mark Keith??
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Not only that...
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2006, 07:35:21 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
If they pulled this hit on my kid without my advice or consent, I would fucking freak out on those bastards.  I'd be on the road, locked and loaded, looking for some face time with the director.

I just cannot understand, for the life of me, why on earth do HLA parents allow this type of nonsense to be inflicted upon their children without raising hell and holding these idiots and quacks to account for their actions.

It gets even better...

HLA does get your consent before doing anything like this.  But here's the kicker...If you don't give your consent, you will be told that I want you to pick up your child and find another placement.  The rationale is:  "if you are not going to follow our reccomendations for what is best for your child, then we cannot help you and I want you to find a place better suited for your needs"


HLA takes it even a step further - If parents don't agree to do this, HLA will kick your kid out of their program and then HLA will state that the parents voluntarily withdrew their kid. Because HLA considers the kid "withdrawn" (even though HLA kicked them out), they won't give parents back their deposits or release any type of academic/therapeutic records.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2006, 11:20:07 AM »
I was recently at RC and I talked with one of the staff down there about the intervention. Also, I know numerous students that have been on interventions and to quote the person I talked to, "If they don't learn from it, we just have to make it stricter and stricter."

From talking to many kids whom were on the most recent intervention, it consists of pretty much hiking all day with a lot of excessive weight. You are given one Nalgene (I didn't ask about how often you are aloud to refill water). The food you get is consisted of all of the rejected items from people at RC. They are generally the things that no sane person would eat. You are given one scrap (a piece of MRE) per hour of hiking and recently they started making them eat while they hiked. About sleep, they are given minimal sleep. And they do not have to be given it all at once. Again, this is coming from a staff at RC that I talked to, they can put you one the side of the road for 20 minutes in broad daylight at a time throughout the day as long as they get 6 hours total per 24 hours.

My personal opinion on it is that there are some kids there that absolutly need to get their asses kicked and need something to get them in line. With the excessive amount of intimidation on campus, some of the kids that intimidate seriously need to get intimidated themselves. But, it is true that they do not need your parents consent to send you and they do not tell your parents right away and when they do, they downsize it as, "A more intense form of RCI" Quite honestly, that by itself invokes a whole ton of fear upon everybody knowing that they can be accused of something and then they are gone.

Well, this is coming from somebody who was there, so have fun =)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: what REALLY happens on interventions
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2006, 01:34:43 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""


This sounds like child abuse to me. How is allowed to continue?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anne Bonney

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5006
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2006, 01:43:55 PM »
It is child abuse.  Think what would happen if a parent tried that shit at home?

It continues because of greedy, self righteous assholes with a fucking savior complex that con gullible or inept parents into believing that teenagers need to be controlled.  They view adolescence as a pathology (I know I keep repeating that but it's one of the major issues we're dealing with here), something to be treated or cleansed or beaten out of them.  Not unlike exorcisms.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
traight, St. Pete, early 80s
AA is a cult http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult.html

The more boring a child is, the more the parents, when showing off the child, receive adulation for being good parents-- because they have a tame child-creature in their house.  ~~  Frank Zappa

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2006, 06:38:43 PM »
I always felt that alot of problems stemmed from parents not realizing that parenting is a full time job. Some people should never become parents period.

Says SHH
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
and all people...
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2006, 10:30:35 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I always felt that alot of problems stemmed from parents not realizing that parenting is a full time job. Some people should never become parents period.

Says SHH


should not play God or play dress up as counselors, teachers...it is a dangerous game...
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2006, 12:54:49 AM »
I was never on  an intervention, but I was on a few challenges, and was sent to another wilderness program twice, before ridge creek was operational. I can tell you that when you are on a challenge, your isolated from the rest of gen pop. I was with a couple others on mine. Here's what I can tell you from my expieriances with it.

I along with a few others ran away and were caught. Here was the punishment.

We obviously did not get any sleep the night we ran, but after we were caught we were not allowed to sleep. They didn't give up breakfast that morning, and then took us down to "lower left" and were told to make "big sticks, little sticks" from this big pile of wood. This isn't your average fire wood pile, this pile was about 6 ft high and about 40 meters long. We obviously weren't able to do it all, but but we were at it a for a few days, about 8 hours a day. Now HLA did provide us meals, but since the people who were supervising us are the same people who's shift we ran away on and who got in trouble for it, they didn't let us eat what we were supposed to get. I watched a bunch of my cheese sandwiches and soup get dumped into the creek that day, along with my one fucking apple. We also were made to drink out of the stream. There advice was to "drink were the water is bubbly" My buddy went delerous during this time. He started talking some crazy shit. They love fucking with your food, as you can tell from the diet they fed you when on restriction.
If they weren't throwing your food away they were fucking with the way you could eat it. During this same time this was another way we had to eat our food. They would lay our sandwiches down on the tennis court right on the pavement, then we had to run sprints down the court, then back up for one bite of sandwich. Our soup was dumped on the court aswell and we had to lick it up in push up position. Yes it was our choice to eat it like that I suppose, but with  the amount of food we were getting we would take it how we could get it.
Another thing during this same "challenge" that we had to do was try to empty out a stream. I know that sounds wierd and I guess it was supposed to be. It was the beggining of January (right after xmas) and it was freezing cold and we were soaked trying to this. We worked at if for hours, with our meal depending on doing this virtually impossible task. Halfway through it,  when it got dark, the staff members said we were a "run risk" and told us to take off our shoes.  I was already soaked in my shoes and my feet were cold anyhow, but having my feet in the freezing water was bad. My buddy who was a good deal skinnier than me was so cold he could barely talk right. Greg lyndsee or howerever you spell his name came down and told them to make us put our shoes back on. We did, but we had to tie our shoe laces together, which is when I found that I had cuts on the bottom of my feet that I had gotton from standing on some rocks in the stream that I didn't really feel when I was standing there because my feet were mostly numb. They wouldn't let me have any first aid treatment, or any dry socks and shoes at least. Then they threw most of our meal into the fire pit and told us to wave good bye to it and gave us one cheese sandwich each. There's a lot more that happend to me and my friends on this challenge and a lot of other stuff that happend to me and my friends in general, but I've already wrote enough. If you want to know more you can email me at my secondary email address that I will be checking for the next week. It's knif3party@yahoo.com. Maybe I'll write more on this topic at some later date, but I feel kinda shitty about these rehashed memorys, and I want to go to the bar with my friends. I've had more realizations drinking with my friends than I ever did at HLA. I'm not a sorry loser like HLA said I would be if I didn't complete their stupid program.  I'm about to open a small internet based buisness for
extra income when I start college. I also hold down a full time job for the time bieng. HLA is the place parents send their children when normal growing pains are to much for a parent to handle.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Child Protective Services - Please contact Ms. Kit Wallace
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2006, 11:21:00 AM »
Students, former students, and parents:

CPS is investigating HLA. Please contact Kit Wallace - her information is listed below.

Kit Wallace
706.864.1839
kwwallace@dhr.state.ga.us

Questions to consider:
- Were students physically attacked by other students and/or staff? Sexually assaulted by staff or other students?
- Were there injuries that required medical treatment, but did not get appropriate treatment?
- She needs specific information about the "Interventions" (not Ridge) and Peachford - what kids endured during those interventions.
- Medication - did kids receive the proper medication or the wrong medications?
- Were kids bullied?
- What type of punishments did kids receive?
- What type of "therapy" did kids receive at HLA?
- What did "restrictions" involve?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2006, 03:28:04 PM »
When student are punished with an Intervention, who implements it? HLA staff? Or is the student sent to Ridge Creek?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
"Intervention" Program
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2006, 03:41:44 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
When student are punished with an Intervention, who implements it? HLA staff? Or is the student sent to Ridge Creek?


The intervention in initiated by HLA and carried out by Ridge Creek.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interventions
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2006, 06:23:22 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
When student are punished with an Intervention, who implements it? HLA staff? Or is the student sent to Ridge Creek?

The intervention in initiated by HLA and carried out by Ridge Creek.


I wonder if any of the RC staff who were involved in interventions are gone?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »