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« on: December 02, 2002, 08:27:00 PM »
Some you may or may not know that there has been a small group of survivors working on your behalf. Working to gather information and facts that would end abusive treatment centers as well as hold those past and present that were proven to have participated in abuse, or any other crimes. We have accomplished that to a degree that would make even those from the 1976 program flip that even all the way back then there exsist evidence given to us recently that would make all of the survivors dreams come through. Now I trust the survivors will read this post carefully as we can not put in detail on this board what exsist for obvious reason. However , what we can tell you is that today our lives and the lives of one of the survivors children was threatned. Our lives are in danger!!!!!!!!!!!that might give you some indication of what we have.  
If you are interested in helping us we NEED YOU NOW....................................
We have been behind the scenes. If you have a statement to make about your time in any program staff or not Type it out SIGN IT>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in two days we will post here where to send them to...
THis is NOT a joke.................If you ever had anything you wanted to say ... staff or not... NOW IS THE TIME>......In the statement only state what you saw at the time.. If you are out there and your on the fence about getting involved and thinking well maybe i will maybe i wont...Im busy ... I dont have time.... etc.. NOW IS THE TIME TO GET OFF THE FENCE..............
For obvious reason we will not respond to this post however the webmistress of this board can vouch for the validity of what we said and our crediability.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2002, 08:52:00 PM »
We also have had two of our houses broken into where the only thing stolen was a laptop and bedsheets and one of the survivors kid was nearly grabbed right off the front porch of his home.
This is SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2002, 09:17:00 PM »
Ginger,

Are we really to believe this? I have to doubt, I've gotten skeptical by now...I guess what I'd like to see is some kind of statement from you confirming the validity of this claim*...until then I, for one, will not get my hopes up...

*and a little more about their 'plan' if you know about it...
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2002, 09:30:00 PM »
Well, I don't know that much firsthand. I can tell you that my friends are pretty scared and that, if half of their fears are well founded, I'm scared too.

As for the plan, well it seems that these folks have been somewhat successful at getting documentation of events that the Semblers would really, really rather never come to light. Are the Semblers or their faithful followers capable of street-thug style violence? Well, the parents' group at SAFE certainly are.

So I guess all I can say is that I wouldn't write this off too lightly.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2002, 11:25:00 PM »
Alex,  I'll tell you, I don't doubt this for a second. But I'm also not gonna stop what I'm doing because of it. Y'all down there in Sembler land - pay close attention to your surroundings, and your kids.

Shelby
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2002, 08:07:00 AM »
:skull: Ginger, I think if this true I might know why, if they are in danger, I have been doing all this research and I can understand why. Maybe they have alot more, I am sure they do, what have is bad enough. I want to help. We have to make this public fast, put me in touch now! Email me private have a connection.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2002, 01:20:00 PM »
Sign it and do what with it?  Where do I send it?  Who am I sending it to?
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2002, 04:34:00 PM »
Not that I doubt for a second that program people do insane things to stop our efforts - but how do you know that the program people are responsible for the burglaries or the attempted abduction? I mean - children get snatched every day and homes get burglarized. Can you give us more information? After all - if you have information that they want - why die with it? You know what I'm saying? . . . I've tried to keep a pretty low-profile myself . . . and I've taken the appropriate steps to make sure that if something were to happen to me (and believe me, I contemplated that from the beginning of my "adventure" into gathering testimony and writing the book) that all of my bases would be covered. In other words - killing me won't kill the story. Incidentally - I've been concerned that for some time now - when my computer tells me that "A remote system is attempting to access juno on your computer" it was some pornography freak trying to utilize my system. Now I wonder. At any rate - everyone should have BACK-UPS and an alternate person to continue your work - should something happen to you. Scary that at our young ages we should have to live in this manner - but this way - nothing dies with you. AND HEY - scary things may happen - but HAVE NO FEAR! That's how they controlled us when we were kids - through fear. DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DO IT AGAIN! NO FEAR!!! Install video cameras - and protect what you have by having a back-up to carry on your work. Just a thought. - Leigh Bright, Straight Survivor '82
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2002, 04:58:00 PM »
And another thing - if you have this valuable information - why in the hell are you sitting on it??????? Why aren't you publishing - or giving it to a media source? For God's sake people - if you can shut the programs down in a quicker way than Wes and I - freaking DO IT!!!!!!!!!
- Leigh Bright
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2002, 05:44:00 PM »
so let's all be careful.  These are evil people we are dealing with.   Take into consideration that fact that even after all the lawsuits that were found in favor of the plaintaffs (sp), those DFAF folks still insist that they saved the lives of over 12,000 young people.  As we all know that is a crock of shit.   They also tell us to get over it and get a life.  I have a great life. Get over it?   I will get over it when all straight based/host home models are outlawed nation-wide and the dfaf is out of business.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2002, 06:40:00 PM »
Rest assured we are not sitting on it. But realeasing it publically on this board would be not smart as that is to only tell those that watch the board everything we have.

We are not sitting on it. It is in the right hands as we speak, that is why our lives are in danger because things are moving. If you have evidence, documents or a statement we will post here tommorow on where to send that too.

Ginger will vouch that things are moving, it is in the right hands.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2002, 08:54:00 PM »
If you have a statement to make about your time in any program staff or not Type it out SIGN IT


Need clarification.  _Any_ program or any program directly descended from Straight?
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2002, 01:46:00 AM »
Mel Sembler's past cannot be all that squeaky clean.  He was involved with a lawsuit by an Ohio man who's wife and daughter were swept to their deaths due to an illegal drainage hook-up during the flood of May 8th 1979.  It took this man over 15 years to reach a settlement in which Mel Sembler's Development Company was directly involved in a direct violation of stormwater drainage codes.  Also during this time Straight Inc. was directly in the flood zone which included two Pinellas County Schools, Azalea Middle and Elementary, yet Straight remained open for business while these schools were shut down early and evacuated.   My research skills suck, but I can name places and dates and points of reference for anyone wishing to dig up some dirt.
As for the disappearance of Jerry Vancil in 1978, I would not at all be surprised if human remains are found while re-developing some former Sembler owned property in this area in the near future.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2002, 02:07:00 PM »
Fredrick 12step you can email us at [email protected]

THanks
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2002, 12:47:00 AM »
I would be happy to offer my services of protection for any of you who feel you need it. As a fellow survivor, I would be willing to waive all fees and charges. I would however, have to ask for help with expenses while I am on location. If anyone feels they need protective services, including a temporary relocation go to the yahoo board, and post under the subject line "A Plea for Help". I will be in touch with you directly.

Good luck.
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