The present senate response

[ScottBowers]

:skull: My responses from three different offices are all pretty much the same. They are all sorry that we went through what we did. Even Frank Wolf apologized, and said he was unaware of any foul play when he supported straight, and blah blah blah.
 Guess, what, they also wish us good luck! Cause they aren't doing anything about it! So maybe tell God! cause the UN doesn't care, and Amnesty International deals with things that makes straight victims look like a bunch of spoiled brat white kids who didn't get their way! Do the research like I did, talk to some people, the world is a big place!
 I'm sorry that some folks cannot deal with their past. It is a choice we must make, some choose to rely on the cult psychology, more rehab, more therapy, more institutions. Well good, hope it works for ya, cause I think it's all bullshit, and how today is for me is what I choose to make of it. I look at life on my terms, not through someone elses guidance.
 Many people are victims. Any kid who did not fit in when I was growing up, got picked on. If you were black or foreign, fat, ugly or odd, poor, slow, handicapped, not good in sports, gender issues, etc, you caught some serious shit. Men abuse women all the time, right now, everyday.
 Amnesty International deals with death and physical torture first, which keeps them busy most of the time. The world can be a sick place for many people today. Just read about the Falon Gong group in China, you'll get my point! Those articles make straight look quite mild.
 Yes, straight was wrong, but life is short. Those who have family, your family needs you for them, not for you to make yourself constantly feel bad. If you need some real convincing, go visit the national holocaust museum, since a lot of you like to freely use the term Nazi! Most who do are quite ignorant to history in general.
 Anyone read the declassified letter to J. Edgar Hoover from Allen Dulles, a CIA report on brainwashing, straights blueprints?
 If you have to make peace with yourself, do so. But dwelling in the past is not the answer, it's a trap. To live outside the present is the beginning of a bad day! I hope everyone who was in straight can find their own peace, cause we all need it. I only ask that if one way does not work for you, try many! If you want peace bad enough, you will find it, but it may take some effort and time.

[ScottBowers]

In a letter to me dated March 3rd, 2003, Frank Wolf denies any knowledge of any knowledge! quote: "I was troubled to hear the allegations of abuse, mistreatment, and criminal activity associated with the Straight program. Aside from those early years when I learned abut the program through parents, I really have no knowledge of the Straight program's continued operation." -end quote.
 I have two letters I printed out from thestraights.com showing Frank Wolf is still lying along with the rest of them involved!
 However, having people follow me and my family around periodically is not my idea of a good life, so i will leave them all alone, apparently there is no one to tell anyway.

[ This Message was edited by: ScottBowers on 2003-03-09 11:31 ]

[velvet2000]

It's funny because I was just having a cup of coffee and started for some reason to think about how some people from Synanon's choose to deal with what happened in the way Scott just did. I only logged on right now because my brain was on it and this was the first post on all of the forums.

I know that with everything in life people deal with things in very different ways, and many people don't deal with things at all or until they've pushed it aside for so long that they feel they have no choice. But it seems as if there are so many survivors of Synanon's that say something along the lines of "Yeah it's a cult and they do really fucked up shitty things that we never should have gone through and I know they're still doing it but you gotta just forget about it and keep moving forward man".

Does anyone else here feel that, that attitude is simply doing what they were told? It seems to me that many of these people are still afraid that if they actually take the time to feel their real feelings through (not the fake ones they installed in us)that they would be "sitting in their shit". And so they have to "let go", even though they haven't really "let go" they just minimize what happened? Many even go as far as to call other survivors loosers for just talking about what happened to them or accuse them of "bitching"!!! All in all it always comes back to protecting the Synanon's, because they always feel that going about legal matters is somehow feeling sorry for themselves and they would be a "bottom feeder" if they did that.

I look at it the same way as if you and your brothers and sisters were sexually molested throughout your childhood, because many survivors of these programs were phyisically, sexually and/or mentally abused if not neglected. Once you turn 18 and are free from your parent but your siblings are still there being abused, would you say "Just gotta keep moving forward man and not live in the past"? I hope not. Would you accuse a molestation victom speaking about their abuse in court while they hold their abuser accountable of "bitching"?

The Straights are not The Past anyways. Their siblings are still alive and suffering.

Also I am a volunteer for Amnesty International and while they do focus on death penalties and imprisonment in foreign countries they are also concerned with "the war on drugs" because they're goal is to free all prisoners of conciousness and they are aware that there are prisoners of conciousness being held here in North America.

[like a bird]

I appreciate your post here very much. I was wondering what you majored in in college and if you have post-grad education as well.

[METALGOD8]

Alright, I can safely say that those senator responses to Scott were totally predictable, at least to me. I am disappointed that Senator Allen did not call for an Act of Congress a couple weeks ago, but that's life too. Most of us know that the government of this country cares very little about what happened to us decades ago. BUT, there is one problem I see with this situation. These programs that spawned off of STRAIGHT, SYNANON, MOONIE, NORTH KOREA, CHINA, etc... are currently going ahead full steam. If the big wigs with bad memories wont do anything, then so be it. That fact alone, does not exclude the others who will make a difference. Believe me, there are more than just a few big wigs that would be highly interested in this situation. If you choose to be on the sidelines, that is great, if you choose to be a whiny griper and justice seeker, that's great too! Cant change the past, but we can expose it for what it is worth and if it helps kids in the programs STILL OPERATING today, then that is even that much greater. The Good Ol' USA is good for some things after all, freedom of most choices, right? Just for the record, I am not afraid of the US Government black helicopters and Gmen etc.
BRING EM ON!!!  ::armed::  ::puke::  

MG8 :smokin:

[Froderik]

Shut Up, Be Happy  :skull:



[ This Message was edited by: AlexL on 2003-03-09 19:29 ]

[ehm]

Hey Alex,
 You just made me think, has anyone ever tried getting in touch with Jello Biafra via e-mail? He's someone who would jump on the opportunity to speak on this political matter. Hell, if it weren't for him, I myself may have never even registered to vote! He's an excellent public speaker, with alot of listeners. I would love to hear him speak on, "The war on Drugs."
 I myself was asked recently if I would speak publicly on the matter by a friend who is with  Missouri Institute of Mental Health. I'm definitely going to. I want to do anything in my power to edjucate the public, especially mental health officials, and schools. School counselors advise parents to these mind-rape mills. What a nightmare.
Morli

[Froderik]

I don't know whether or not someone has tried to contact him. He has already spoken about this. Not long ago, Antigen posted a link to a 12MB mp3 recorded by him called, "MayAllYourDreamsBeWonderful" which spoke about drug rehabs. It's pretty good! Maybe she could post that link again...(?) I would be surprised if he's never gone off on "the war on drugs" in the larger sense, as well. The DK's were a favorite band of mine before going into straight, during the years 1981-82. (I was in there from 82-85) After straight I got back into the band that I was in before going in, and we opened for them. It was probably the largest audience I've ever played in front of. Also on the bill were the Butthole Surfers. Anyway, it's good to hear that you will be speaking publically. You seem to have no problem getting your point across on this board...L8r, Alex

[ehm]

It's something I would love to hear, I'll look on  Alternative Tentacles web page for it. I thought I heard his last speech, I'll check again, and e-mail Ginger about it as well.
 
  Wow, your band played with DK and  The Butthole Surfers I'm impressed! Butthole Surfers, DK, the Sex Pistols, and Suicidal Tendencies were some of my first favorites. I was 12 or 13. I love all kinds of music though. My best friend used to hang out with Black Flag, and was good friends with Henry Rollins, back in the day. Small world huh? We are getting old, it's a welcome change,I finally get treated like I'm not just a little punk-ass kid! lol Thanks for the vote of confidence on my public speaking too. What was/is your bands name? What do you play?

[ This Message was edited by: Morli on 2003-03-10 08:54 ]

[ehm]

Oops, some how I posted my last response twice. :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Morli on 2003-03-10 08:55 ]

[Froderik]

I was/am a guitar player. The name of that band was Reptile House. Before I joined back up with them, they had recorded a 7" on Discord. I played on an album that they put out the Merkin label, and went on a low-budget US tour with them in the summer of 1985. We opened for the Buttholes again at the old 9:30 Club. That other gig (mentioned above) took place at WUST Music Hall in DC...