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The Troubled Teen Industry / synanon cedu and the seed
« on: November 30, 2007, 09:32:46 AM »
you can't forget about all those motherfuckers at the beginning. tim brace working for the naval intell in annapolis he used to talk about all the time? why? why would he always talk about his wierd times before meeting mel wasserman and going to CEDU?
and then there were the spinoffs. cedu needs it's own fucked up family tree because once everyone saw how much money they could make, fuckit i'll start my own school MICHAEL ALLGOOD and call it CASCADE. then he hired some people who probabnly went off and did spring creek in montana and all those other early places. there were only like four. now there are hundreds in that state alone, as far as i think they are all cedu people clone sheep phuckers.
and the wilderness people there were that went and did the wilderness and or 3escort stuff. those people were around in the CEDU early days too. they had there other places like SORENSON's Ranch L. jay Mitchell and that DENNIS dude who went and started SUWS, and they had deaths of kids in their first year! no one will be able to name all the names of the pigfuckers theat went and started all those places. they spread like cancer, ruining families and trust funds as they go.

yeah. the public braiwashing world of florida and NANCY all lies see her birth certificate REAGAN and the private mind controlling teen killing parent scamming moneymakers were connected only by political contributions and clout.

The Troubled Teen Industry / The issue from a parents perspective
« on: October 30, 2007, 02:33:09 PM »
[.  Parental guilt can be really corrosive as well, to everyone; a guilty parent sends the message that since they are guilty of screwing up as parents then it follows that the result, their child, is really screwed up.  And parents who feel really guilty tend to make decsions based more on a need to assuage the guilt feelings which can blind them to what the real need is.

What has helped me with my own kids whose behavior at times would certainly be viewed by society as malignant  is being honest with myself; painful retrospection, accountibility for my own errors, a genuine and avid interest in LISTENING to how whatever I have done has affected them and working to develop a real friendship with them.  Listening instead of lecturing, being there for them no matter what, being on their side no matter, has enabled a real bond of trust to develop.  And I love my kids, have always worked hard, done the very best I could always with the best of intentions and still made mistakes.  Such is life.[/quote]

god damn I hate it when i cry at fornits. I wish to god my mom would spend two hours at this stupid website.
thank you for your intelligent post. too bad you sent your kid to pigfucking school. but at least you understand us better now, right?

EdCons and referring organizations and agencies /
« on: October 30, 2007, 02:11:55 PM »
ohmigod that's true.
whatta crazy world. poor me poor parents. let's blame the system...the matrix. phuckers.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Paris Hilton
« on: October 30, 2007, 01:57:54 PM »
"'She was a mess from day one,' the insider told The ENQUIRER. 'She was such a spoiled brat that the other rich kids were disgusted with her too!'

LOL Getting honest with Paris. No wonder she didn't have a good experience. That's hysterical

what does it mean if you defend an adult licking a child's face? One who evidently didn't like it. Do you? Lick minors' faces? I'm just curious because, you know...I might just like to watch something like that. I mean now that I'm a consenting adult anyway?
shaking head. he licks their faces? what the fuck?

-desperately slurping stacy.

I'd rather hear j. possibly's falsetto to your ugly ass anyday.

The Troubled Teen Industry / being myself
« on: October 30, 2007, 12:58:29 PM »
I also take fornits seriously. As seriously as treatment, motherfuckers.

The Troubled Teen Industry / coca puffs
« on: October 30, 2007, 12:53:54 PM »
this shit is funny.
do you like my new signature?

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / non pig F*^%ng staff.
« on: September 18, 2007, 01:02:36 PM » ... c&start=10

I like to watch.where are the grown ups that used to be here?

Those pig fucking staff would have blown you away in a heartbeat if they were armed and licensed to do so. Think about it. If you were a three person crew that had been there for six months and they broke us down, not by separating us and using psychological tactics against one another in raps, but by brutality you all would have been ratting each other out just as soon as a pair of pliers was waved in your map.
As soon as I saw that people who were strong willed by nature and would not drink that dang kool- aid didn't last more than a few months, and I took the plunge and did my share of splitting, and that got me starving in the desert for a while, I did concede. I did not bloody break, right. OR maybe I did. You see, of course if we magnify even the slightest bit the extent of the physical or psychological tweakage that they did (forgetting profeets, people) you would begin to see how compliance made mandatory an inability to meet and think freely. That is huge. If you survived in that old CEDU model, you either acted or drank the kook- aid. Your resistance was futile as the longer you 'acted', the worse damage you were expected to inflict on others. That still brings us back to breaking or bending morals for a span.

Acting the part was not in the psychological make up of my 14 year old self. I could either stop being resistant and play their game or be locked up 'til I was 18 OR LONGER. That perpetual threat after the desert business made my splitting or getting thrown out an impossibility. I had not been court ordered. I had not hurt anyone or myself, stolen property, or used drugs. (mostly)
They played on these and other meaningful and meaningless insecurities ad nauseum. After the ruthless raps and a few more profeets I had to change my entire view of the survive psychologically. What I would say to another human being changed over time. How I viewed resistance to the kook- aid changed also as I not only survived, but was rewarded with more food and most importantly- being treated with decency. I viewed younger kids as needing to get further along just to see things my way. That's why they were little brothers. It hurt me to watch them get blown away, so I did it myself to soften the blows. It's strange, but very true. And because I wasn't a frigid, heartless pig- fucker, I tried to give constructive criticism most all of the time.  Mind, it took a few years after CEDU to learn when not to ram constructive criticism down people's throats.  Just wait until I start offering my opinions.

I got through that place all the way. And it was because I BENT that I was able to. What's wrong with that? It was because I bent my resistant will that I survived as intact emotionally and psychologically as I (disturbed, very fucking disturbed) did. I just wish I had been older so I could have shoved a four foot birch round up Mel Wasserman's gilded asshole.

I resisted until I saw it was hopeless. To Break, Believe, or Bend, (over) was the only way to survive the program intact when I was there. And to clarify bending or breaking and being what CEDU wanted you to be would have been the only way to SURVIVE at all if it was just a little more like life in physical extremity. The most visibly resistant would have been the first to die and through interesting torture techniques would've ratted your fake- ass out in the first minute or two. Of course,  you would've been brave and recalcitrant right into a very early grave, leaving a lovely young corpse.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / We need a trollometer
« on: March 28, 2007, 02:38:22 PM »
for the staff who do visit.
i know because I can see you through your screen, dimwitz.

CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / stoopid programmy
« on: March 28, 2007, 02:36:34 PM »
yes i'm back to visit you wussies. empathy ?
I get mad every time I think of that place. How could that kind of shit existed? What a creepy fucking joke. I ain't forgetting good times. There just wasn't enough to cover up the bad either.
fuck even the good counselors stoopid part of the matrix, make you believe by any means. and rights? please! there were none. any person disagree? you would be that asshole in a rap. I throw you around like a frisbee you say different. FUCK CEDU.

The Troubled Teen Industry / What is your problem?
« on: February 21, 2007, 12:47:41 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Anne""
Based on my research on the Forum, the idea of "suspending judgment" (ie setting aside what is "right" and "wrong") is only an exercise, in order to see how you feel, outside of your daily value system.

That's not terribly scary to me--it's just a way of looking at something that might be obscure or in the shadows otherwise, I mean, I can bring my own original values back anytime I wish.

Or incorporate something new if I wish.

As to the confrontation issue, and the "50 people": there are different ways to look at that one too.  

Being frightened by such a scenario is not what I meant by having to be a little more "rigid" in terms of holding to a position".  

People yelling at me isn't a particular bother, my own personal quandry is that it's just pretty easy to see both sides of any given coin and to be swayed, unless I focus on holding true to chosen core beliefs.

Another thing that occurs to me, personally, in terms of your "50 people" scenario is the years, long, long ago, that I spent as a teenager, in a quite strict religious school, where people tried in convince me of certain points of view every single day.

I knew, in that context, that many of the things I was hearing were way, way off base, in terms of how I looked at the world.  So I just, for  the most part, kept my head down and kept on going.

Yet another way of looking at that "50 people" situation might be that something you could possible be hearing from these people might be insightful or helpful, even if the format really, really irked you.  

I don't know the specifics in your particular case, certainly I wasn't there, but at least sometimes, kids who get sent to TBS or wilderness are doing some pretty self-destructive things.  

So I guess that I would have to say that the "50 people" yelling might be good in some contexts and just something to be gotten through in others.

Another approach is to confront certain behaviors, sometimes by away-from-home options, I think that is what these kinds of groups, raps or whatever are aimed at.

And just touching on your discussion of "values"-- have you considered that being able to compromise in certain contexts IS a value?  Our particular culture focuses so much on "standing up" for something, that we sometimes forget the value of being able to fall back, when it leads to consensus and doesnt't threaten really core values.  

Just a thought!

You are fucking idiot.
I was at one of those goddamn programs and I've been reading this sorry ass shit all night. You have no idea what you are talking about. Being in confrontational group sessions did not ever provide anyone with the good aspects you purport. You are a liar! If anyone ever trapped you the way we were trapped you would go fucking insane. Screw your little tight cunt church shit you talk about that makes you think you are qualified to talk about something totally different. You are uninformed of the hostility inflicted on teenagers in these programs or you get paid to send kids to be hurt. I don't know what your fucking problem is exactly, but these places are for parents that give up on raising their own kids, not go the extra mile.
self destructive? shove a bible up your stuffy cunt, you judgemental snob! I'll bet my last dollar that you look at people with tattooes and go "EW, yuck, what a dirty, scummy, creep". You disgust me you classist, elitist, (probably think you're not) racist, biaatch!

I hate the whole system for allowing  us to be treated that way and ignored for the duration until my programming was complete.  
No!  if you sent me there to conform conform conform.
Now I won't do what you tell me. Don't like my tone?
Blow it out your fat ass you uppity white cracker bitch.
No more LIES, people. I ain't kissin' that ugly fat ass!

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