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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« on: October 27, 2009, 12:16:37 PM »
Thank you Kim and "Woof-a-Doof", along with Richard for going and letting me be heard without even being there. I live out of state from you guys. Though I didn't (thank God) know that demon inspired thing aka Newton, I am glad you guys were there to help continually expose that bastard.

You're right Kim, from what I could see on the live streaming, Newt looked horrible. Those followers of his looked pretty zombie-like. God only knows what he is doing to them.

Ken

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« on: October 19, 2009, 06:11:35 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "ramprato"
Is it possible to watch the Madeira Beach cable channel over the net? I would like to see this meeting but I'm out of state. I just googled this link:

http://www.channelchooser.com/tv/watch/ ... each/4812/

According to the earlier link in this thread by Anne Bonney,: http://www.madeirabeachfl.gov/Pages/Mad ... gd%202.pdf - I went in there and they said it would be broadcast live...

hmmmm, sounds like a plan.......    :shamrock:

Ken


Great idea!


Just think, LOL, we can hook up that pecker LIVE...coast to coast! :cheers:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Newton trying to skirt the law AGAIN
« on: October 19, 2009, 05:55:29 PM »
Is it possible to watch the Madeira Beach cable channel over the net? I would like to see this meeting but I'm out of state. I just googled this link:

http://www.channelchooser.com/tv/watch/ ... each/4812/

According to the earlier link in this thread by Anne Bonney,: http://www.madeirabeachfl.gov/Pages/Mad ... gd%202.pdf - I went in there and they said it would be broadcast live...

hmmmm, sounds like a plan.......    :shamrock:

Ken

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Wes Fager's Funeral
« on: February 15, 2009, 11:29:55 AM »
Quote from: "Nonconformistlaw"
Does Mr Fager's family have a preference regarding the attendance of Straight survivors?

Would they prefer survivors attended the viewing or the funeral? Or are they open to either? Thanks

Yes, you may go to the viewing and funeral. It's open to everyone at family's request.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Wes Fager
« on: February 12, 2009, 09:45:38 PM »
Rest in peace my friend. I know you're with the angels, Kaye and family, my prayers and love go with you.

Ken

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: FUCK YOU ALL!!!
« on: February 02, 2009, 08:34:09 AM »
Quote from: "FREEPERSCREEPERS"
Wouldn't you know it, the Ramp's message looks like it was deleted sometime this weekend. The comment count says 2 but there's only one under the story now, at least on my screen. Could someone verify this on theirs?  Man, what liability does the paper up there have in this mess?


Who are they protecting?   :deal:  :deal:

Thanks for bringing that to my attention Freepers, but it's checking out okay on my screen. Both posts are there from what I'm seeing.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: FUCK YOU ALL!!!
« on: January 30, 2009, 08:18:18 AM »
Maybe some people could leave their comments over at the Detroit Free Press to let them know what a "wonderful" kinda place a Straight, INC. spin-off is.

Thanks.

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Thanks for your post. I think it took guts to do what you just did. I hope you can supply Wes with whatever information you have on them pricks so we can all contiunue to put this shit behind us one day at a time.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / More NWI Articles on Pathways/Straight
« on: February 05, 2007, 09:53:21 AM »
Pretty much what starry-eyed pirate said was right on. These folks that claimed PFC was not Straight and 'explained why' in front of reporters and commissioners and as far as I'm concerned - they 'explained' on record.

I am skeptical. The verdict is not yet out.

I also attended the meeting. I only asked one question to Terri Nissley (sp?) I told her my question was concerning bathroom privacy. I asked her if the newcomers were permitted to shower and use the bathroom facilities with NO ONE present in the bathroom and... if the newcomers could lock the door. From what I remember, she said that they were permitted to shower and use the bathroom in private, but they were NOT permitted to lock the door.

What I gathered, was that they were allowed only to close the door short of shutting it all together without locking it. Okay, some improvement (concerning the bathroom only) if this is true, but I'm still skeptical. I also was invited to Pathway to observe the 1st phasers. I hope that means I may speak with them in private, accompanied with a professional of my choice to determine for myself how they are being treated.  :-?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / AN Expos? can happen @ KHK too......
« on: February 11, 2006, 10:10:00 AM »
:smile: Well Penny, did you enjoy the picket? I realize this is an old thread honey, but these things take time.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Radley Balko covers KHK
« on: November 17, 2005, 09:00:00 AM »
http://www.theagitator.com/archives/025866.php

November 16, 2005
Kids Drug Warriors Helping Preying on Kids
So after watching the local news report on Kids Helping Kids (and you really need to see the video), I can tell you it is an exact replica of the Straight programs of the 1980s and 90s, all of which were shut down due to allegations of abuse, lawsuits, and criminal probes. Note also the length of stay -- 11-12 months. If that duration is like the one at Straight, much of it is spent in complete isolation from parents and family.

The paramaters of what constitutes "drug-related behavior" were set exceedingly broad at Straight, so that just about any kid could be a potential drug case, and thus a Straight client. That in mind, check out this list of "warning signs" from the KHK website. Just four of these apparently means your kid's probably into the drugs, and a likely enrollee in the program:

Has your child....

seemed depressed
become rebellious and defiant
had trouble with the law
had a bad attitude
avoided you upon arriving home
become increasingly isolated
had a drop in grades
required extra sleep
dropped out of favorite activities
changed friends
started looking unkempt or unhealthy
changed image/clothes/personal style
been caught lying
possessed unexplained money
threatened or attempted suicide
frequently broken curfew
been fired from work
come home high or drunk
destroyed car or property

Do you...

argue with your spouse about your child‚??s behavior
feel anger or dislike for your child
fear you are a failure as a parent
‚??bargain‚?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / The Riddiler makes the Post - again
« on: November 17, 2005, 08:57:00 AM »
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 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ml?sub=new

By Jay Mathews

Thursday, November 17, 2005; Page VA10

After I wrote an article about J.E.B. Stuart High School principal Mel Riddile being named national high school principal of the year ["A Principal's Wide Reach; Head of Fairfax School Wins National Award," Metro, Oct. 23], I received many messages praising his success at raising achievement at a school full of low-income students.

I also received messages from people campaigning against the tough-love approach to adolescent drug abuse rehabilitation practiced by Straight Inc., a company that Riddile worked for in the 1980s. Straight Inc., founded in 1976 in Florida by Mel Sembler, a former U.S. ambassador to Italy, and his wife, Betty, went out of existence in 1993. The Semblers have since started the Drug Free America Foundation ( http://www.dfaf.org ), a drug prevention and policy group.


Here is an excerpt of one of the e-mails about Riddile and Straight:


Dear Extra Credit:

I would like to take this opportunity to advise you of the fact that Dr. Riddile was executive/regional director at Straight Inc. for several years back in the 1980s, an organization some parents have accused of systematically physically and psychologically abusing their children. Unfortunately, time does not heal all wounds.

In your article published about Dr. Riddile and his outstanding accomplishments in his role as principal of J.E.B. Stuart, his involvement with Straight is missing. Treatment similar to that used by Straight is still administered in programs called by different names. It is quite possibly the most dangerous drug treatment program ever to exist in this country. Dr. Riddile trained Straight directors in the same building in Ohio in which one of these programs currently operates.

I find it necessary to advise your paper of these facts as part of a movement to expose this ongoing tragedy. I made several requests this year to invite Dr. Riddile to speak out against this treatment program. He claimed that he knew nothing about the specific program in Ohio. But he trained people who engaged in similar treatment modalities. I advised him of this situation in 2003. The requests have been either ignored or denied.

I believe Dr. Riddile knows about the problems associated with the Straight treatment. Please urge him to speak out against this abuse now.

William Earnshaw Sr.

Midland, Va.

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Readers Raise Concerns About Past Work of Top Principal



In my article, I did not mention Riddile's drug abuse work, both for Fairfax County and then for Straight, because I didn't think it was relevant to the topic -- how he turned Stuart High into a top educational institution. But I appreciate your concern about Straight, which you told me grew out of what you said you experienced as mistreatment under the program when you were a client.

The Post has published many stories about Straight. They make it clear that there has been much debate over the usefulness of drug treatment programs that place young clients under strict discipline, as Straight did. The articles note that one young client won an initial verdict of $220,000 in damages in 1983 after complaining of being detained for more than four months in a Straight facility in Springfield.

But according to the information I received from both you and Riddile, he was never sued or charged with any crime. Nor did you or any of the other sources you cited ever witness him do anything wrong. Riddle said he has many letters from Straight clients thanking him for what he did for them and said he is proud of his work there. I recommend that readers interested in this issue perform a Google search on Straight Inc. and do their own reading.

Having watched Riddile's work at Stuart for the last eight years, I am convinced that he deserved the award he received and does not deserve these criticisms for work he did in the 1980s that many of his young clients and their families have praised him for. Riddile is one of the 10 best high school principals I have ever seen, and I think Fairfax County is lucky to have him.

Please send your questions, along with your name, e-mail or postal address and telephone number to Extra Credit, The Washington Post, 526 King St., Suite 515, Alexandria, Va. 22314. Or [email protected].

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Kids helping Kids promo:
« on: November 16, 2005, 09:35:00 AM »
Quote
On 2005-11-14 19:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I was in Hagit's segment.

My son is safe now that he is out........

God Bless Hagit in showing the " motivation."



A parent survivor.......... "


I couldn't really add anything more than the others posting here. I know you did the right thing  :tup: and you guys will be all the stonger for it. God bless and keep all you guys!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / AN Expos? can happen @ KHK too......
« on: November 16, 2005, 09:28:00 AM »
whoops, that was me posting.   :wink:

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On 2005-07-27 13:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My name is Tommy I was tricked into an intake,and signing in on halloween 1982.I tried to leave and was sat on.My father died when I was 12 and I had a hard time dealing with this.There is a drug and alcohol councelor in my state that told my mother that he did not even need to see me or talk to me I was a drug addict who neede to go to straight.This councelor had sent many people from here in AnnArbor mich there.He is still a councelor to this day he says he regrets ever sending anyone there I still resent him.I had the longest program in this straight I copped out 9 times,I was there over three years.I am still haunted by being sat on sometimes from attendance to the end of night rap .These people used to put a rag in my mouth when I begged them to get off me.Then they think you can ever trust these people who restrain you sit on you force you to motivate,exercise.I had a brother on senior staff.I dont speak to him or any of my family its been a long time when you dont conform you get tortured emotionally and physically. That place still effects me to this day I still know alot of people who feel the same way,my friend was in straight washington,he has a hard time talking about it he was a [MISBEHAVER}to.I just got this computer I was shocked to see this site. how are you guys doing.Is it to late to sue this place."


Hey Tommy,

I remember you, this is Ken, I came in a week or two ahead of you and remember your brother too. That place was fucked up and I understand your pain. I remember leaving the Ann Arbor area to go down to that hell hole, they never had a right to do what they did to us. I think these websites are great. It's a chance to heal here and help expose places like this in order to save other kids from going thru what we went thru.


I talk to some of those you were in with once in a while. I hope you're healing now Tom. It was a relief to me to know that I didn't have to carry the weight (or blame myself) for my family's problems anymore, that was up to them. Straight really twisted my mind around for a while, but things are improving now..

Take care...Ken

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