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An open discussion about the troubled parent industry

Remember when, just before open meeting, a staff member, usually a trainee, would come out and ask, "Does anyone know ________?" Some poor schlep would rise there hand and say, "That's my brother/sister." Then there was this list of questions like do you know of them doing any drugs and so forth.

I always felt betrayed by this. Both my brother and sister were doing drugs long before me, I narc'd them out like a good little phaser and neither of them were slapped on front row. I mean my sister was snorting anything that look white and my brothre was trying anything that would melt on your tongue. (Kind of like those listerene breathe thingy's. Wonder what ex-deadhead designed them?) Could be that they were both honor students and never got into any trouble. If they were getting into trouble they'd point out to mom and dad what dastardly thing I was doing and poof! No more trouble for them. Go figure?!

CL

I would think so... 11K is below the minimum level, I think.

I have always loved the phrase "got back" or "refund" This means the IRS over charged you by that much money and thus wrote themselves a short-term NO intrest loans TAKING it from your income even before you see it. I think if we had no "withholding" and had to pay our tax bill when it was due we'd feel the pain of paying the government for the dubious services they provide. We'd then see an outright revolt against the wasterels in Washington.

Try being self-employeed and having to file quarterly estimates and returns. It sucks and I am glad I don't have to do it any more.

CL

The so called progressive tax is based on some kind of fallacy. It like there is only one pile of money out there and the rich are rich because they got there first and took more than their fare share. This is not true. Most rich people I know are there because they are quite smart, work very hard and are driven by simple goals. Like stomping their competetion into the ground. My attorney once told my when I was threatened with a lawsuit, "Business is pretty Darwinian isn't it?" In the 10K v. 100K sinereo our current situation is that the 10K person pays no tax while the 100K (which the IRS defines as wealthy) person pay roughly 32% not countong FICA and State taxes. I don't know about you but I don't work my ass off to give it to a bunch of people to give most of it to the worst money managers in the history of man. I truly believe a flat tax would be fair and equitable to all citizens. The Dems. will never go for it as their largest voting block is the poor. Why give them an opportunity to earn more as the wealthy gain greater resources to invest in the industries and businesses that grow our economy. The only way a flat tax makes no sense is if the "wealthy" stuff their money in jars and leave it in the back yard.

CL

That was truly excellent. Understanding your (our) point of view I could almost see the malice dripping from each inocuous word. True diplomacy, telling someone to fuck off and sounding reasonable and actually contrite while doing so. Bravo!

CL

By the time the afternoon rap was over and we got sent back into the main room I could barely stand. I remember getting confronted on time and being made to sit back down and go last for not getting up quickly enough.

Also, I got called on in exec. rap one time and immeadiately told to have a seat for not getting up fast enough. I'll bet, even though I don't remember, I earned nothing that night. Most likely for being disrespectful to the execs. For some reason this makes me terribly angry.

CL

I also strongly suspect that sitting "Indian Style" is the reason I can barely walk some mornings and why if I am playing ANY sports I have to eat Aleive like candy.

CL

Doug

I rememeber him well and he was a good friend. My parents and his parents were buddies in the program. Remember when he's talk, he'd get worked up and then there'd form balls of spit on his tongue. Is he doing well? Or was this an old picture?

CL