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« on: December 01, 2001, 05:01:28 PM »
Duh
The word I used to describe your post speaks for itself, what syllable don't you understand??
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« on: December 01, 2001, 04:37:55 PM »
gr8ful2aarc
B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
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« on: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM »
Whoops again.........
"Ah, how sweat, I'm soooo sorry Executive staff is a little pissed off, but hey, remember confidentiality?, you wrote the rules! >
http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif' alt='
'> "
Well, ok, you got me, that should of said "how SWEET", but then again are yow sweating yet Mr. Exec?, remember the commercial for that deodorant, "Never let em see ya sweat"!!!!!!!!! >http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif' alt=''>
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« on: December 01, 2001, 12:37:21 PM »
lol?....sure am.....
Oh, please don't be nervous,
It took a long time (at least 30 years) for you numbnuts to learn how to rape children's and young people's minds for a profit, so we really need to take our time to deal with you juuust right >http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif' alt=''>
I liked the following quote you made too: "Bring the cameras or better yet just watch the upcoming documentary on the nature of things (Geez they must have had to quiet the kids in the dungeon for the filming of that. Must have toned down the brainwashing techniques as well)."
Well, I would first like to say that I am an American fan of the CBC and watch the Nature of Things, The fifth estate, and other shows there quite a bit, I'm sure I'll be watching and taking a lot of notes about this little matter. However, you don't to seem to post the CBC airing date. Well no bother, I think I'll contact the CBC and find out.
"TO BE TOTALLY HONEST im sick of reading these pathetic threats. If your going to do something than do it but quit lobbing grenades that are complete duds without having the nuts to show your face."
Ah, how sweat, I'm soooo sorry Executive staff is a little pissed off, but hey, remember confidentiality?, you wrote the rules! >http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif' alt=''>
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« on: November 01, 2001, 11:45:06 AM »
welcome
Just Wanted to say Jason,
Glad you found these sites. I was in Cincinnati around the same time that Lestat was in, so our path's never crossed, I also live in Michigan. You sound like a determined person and that's a great strength to have when dealing with a bunch of nutcakes (staff) in a Mind Rape Mill. I "graduate", I put the word "graduated in quotations because I no longer recognize its significance.
I hope your healing today and have a better outlook at life. I prey that they didn't break you to too bad, and that you can move on despite them. Keep on posting, I look forward to them.......
If you want to talk my email address is [email protected]
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« on: May 01, 2001, 02:05:43 PM »
Re: Great relocation for the discussion board!
Glad you're back Matt,
I quit smoking Oct, 99 cold turkey too! Haven't had one since! It's just really cool that since I I've have been looking at this truth about Straight, being educated to the fact that this was nothing more than a money making scam, also knowing that my Niece and Nephew needed me helped me to finally put that last cigarette pack down and keep it there on my shelf and they've been there since Oct, 99.
Myself, I think God for his help, showing me that a program or patch wasn't going to stop me from smoking, it was just going to have to be my decision alone. It also helps me to encourage others not necessarily to stop, but for them to do whatever they need to do to get to their next point in their lives. I find freedom in that.
Best of luck on it, and take it easy....Ken
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« on: November 01, 2001, 11:45:06 AM »
welcome
Just Wanted to say Jason,
Glad you found these sites. I was in Cincinnati around the same time that Lestat was in, so our path's never crossed, I also live in Michigan. You sound like a determined person and that's a great strength to have when dealing with a bunch of nutcakes (staff) in a Mind Rape Mill. I "graduate", I put the word "graduated in quotations because I no longer recognize its significance.
I hope your healing today and have a better outlook at life. I prey that they didn't break you to too bad, and that you can move on despite them. Keep on posting, I look forward to them.......
If you want to talk my email address is [email protected]
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« on: October 01, 2001, 05:15:47 PM »
Still don't get it...
"BTW you still do not offer an alternative treatment."
My God, everything you have been told by all of us, and you still refer to that place as "treatment".
Why don't you try NOT locking him away from you, and talk to him instead of entrusting him to complete strangers for starts, sounds like he has had a smorgasbord of places to help "fix" him in his short 17 years of life, what the hell about you?, has he had YOU to talk to yet? or did that go to off to the side while you were piling up all the money? Go into family counseling, study the end affects of brainwashing and what survivors of brainwashing go through day to day because you're going to need the information to deal with you own kid's Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that you and GT have introduced to him. You might find a good therapist for him and you for that matter, one that is familiar with Synanon based MIND RAPING methods because that's the new thing you got to add to the list on top of all the rest of juniors "ailments" boss.
Level with me, when you first started lurking our websites and posted your first message (listing off all these things he did), did you list your son's "problems" off the 20 questions pamphlet they gave you? Do you honestly think that the 20 questions thing started in GT, lol.
"Ken, I am not interested in winning any argument with you, prove you wrong, etc. as I understand you are only trying to help me and my kid. It just surprises me that you refer to GT as if was a copy of Straight. You know Straight, you do not not GT and you ignore the differences I point out to you."
Well you right there, I am actually genuinely concerned amazingly for someone I never even met that I know is being tortured up in his mind, this is getting real personal, I am speaking for somebody that can NOT speak for himself, YOUR son. Pay close attention now.......GT was born out of Straight and uses the same mind raping methods that straight used on all us all those years ago, savvy?
"You know Straight, you do not not GT and you ignore the differences I point out to you."
I think your saying I don't know GT, only Straight, wrong, I know the methods GT uses, I know that there were homosexual abuse charges brought up against GT in a police report that I bet they didn't tell you upon you admitting you child, and entrusting him to. I know that you yourself have said that he has NO privacy and I know that this is a main brainwashing tactic right there not to mention the sheer humiliation of it, (bathroom ect...)
You are fixed in your beliefs, there is NO stopping you, they have you "convinced" another dollar in the pot for them, another ruined human being. I would NEVER put my kid in a place like that under ANY circumstances, those people who run places like that ought to be jailed. Don't worry though, I, like everybody here will do what they can to expose these sickos with or without your help.
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« on: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM »
You just don't get it do ya??.......
Those people that run GT prey on people like you. It's not because you're such a nice guy, it's not because they have a genuine concern for your kid, You have a couple of dollars in the bank and that' all they want, MONEY plain and simple. Look around the room at GT, and what do you see, you don't see kids from the SLUMS do you??
The majority of us that post here and on the other sites came from upper middle income backgrounds, that's who these Straight-like places target people with MONEY.
Here's a quote from you I found particularly special:
"I think that some sort of serious re-programming of the mind (aka brain washing) would have to take place to make such a radical change in someoneâ??s concepts, thinking process, feeling process, etc."
That to me that is plain disgusting, to read such garbage. Oh yes, it's OK as long as it's happening to somebody else and not yourself, hell, for that matter, it's OK even if it's your own kid, just throw him into the hands of complete strangers you've never met before and walk away??,well think again ace. Your child is your most precious resource and YOU have been given a RARE opportunity, an opportunity that most of our parents 20 years ago would of begged to have if it were available to them, a chance to talk to 20 year survivors of MIND RAPE MILLS such as GT who have given their very heart and sole to you about the aftereffects of untold pain caused by brainwashing. People like us who have had time to research these sickos, know their game, and all the steps they took along the way for some 30 years to perfect their scam on people like you, it amazes the @#%$ right out of me that you would trust them over us, I'm shaking my head right now in complete disbelief. I know guys, I shouldn't be, I realize we've only been exposing these bastards for a year or so now.
Just taking a stab here, did you ever read up on communist re-education camps?? They use the same sick MIND RAPING tactics in those camps, where do you think the brainwashing kids concept was "barrowed" from. I'm sure were also soon going to find out that this is how the kids in poor middle eastern families are recruited and "educated" to hate Americans, it's just a matter of time before this all comes out and makes the headlines, I'm sure then that you won't mind being the poster-dad advocating brainwashing centers for anything YOU perceive wrong with kids. Did YOU ever go through adolescence, were you ever defiant to your parents, EVER?? How did they correct you? Did they entrust you to strangers?, careful now, your halo is slipping.
Here's a good one from you:
"Worse case, if he survives this treatment and will take him (as you say) 15 years to get â??rightâ?? again, that implies that we will be alive 15 years from now, and that is good news. It certainly beats the alternative."
I think if I were able to turn back the clock, I would of rather find another way of dealing with whatever issues there were at the time concerning my adolescence. Sure, to the outside world, I am a "success", but why the hell is it that when the internet was introduced to this world did I find myself on it advocating the humane treatment of kids and exposing sick MIND RAPE MILLS such as YOUR kid is in??? hmmm? Must be for my health, my emotional health.
Now try to remember these next words I ought to send a recommendation to the AD Council for a public service announcement:
A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO RAPE
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« on: October 01, 2001, 12:50:47 PM »
Blinders still on I see.........
"I believe you and know that you have been traumatized and abused by those programs", Those programs?, um those programs you refer to are the pre-GT:
(Look carefully, you will see "Growing Together" on this chart how it was formed from Straight Inc.)
www.ex-cult.org/General/s...conditions
"GT has been open for over 15 years and presumably hundreds if not thousands of kids: we would see a lot more bad rap about 'them' in the net. I looked hard and all I saw was the opinion of one judge and one psychologist, nothing more." My God, what do you need to get this?, an atom bomb to drop on your head, they have been to the courts for ABUSE, a leopard doesn't change its spots, it just pays off its accusers. They, like Straight settled out of court in order to stay open and continue RAPING MINDS for profit. 15 years ago, Straight started closing down their centers across the country, the process took about 5 years, they were close down for what? ABUSE. But there was money to be made so individuals formerly involved with Straight, reopened up with different names using the same MIND RAPIST tactics.
Do you think we are PAID to be here giving out to you like this? This is a place for us, that were abused to get together and finally be able to talk about it amongst ourselves, and during all this, we come to realize that these places still exist, and we want to save each and every kid out there from experiencing what we did so they can at least attempt to grow from their experiences without having their minds turned to JELLY.
Blinders still on I see. That's OK, become guiltless, walk on water, that makes it easier, let that poor kid take the blame for everything and see what you get out of a son in 15 or 20 years, So he isn't perfect, he yells back, he boozes with friends or whatever, did you ever think he was just trying to reach out in his own way??? You obviously have a couple of bucks, money can even buy your kid a drug problem, what a country! Too bad now that your kid is behind a kind of Berlin wall where you are unable to communicate when you and him need it most...
When you get a shell shocked son back, here is a note of encouragement, he will always have these websites to come to, thank you for helping to turn out a new generation of Stefford Zombies.....Think about it please.
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« on: October 01, 2001, 03:10:27 PM »
Take off the blinders before it's too late.........
Ok, like Ginger was saying I was in Straight Cincinnati, I was put in there 19 years ago Oct 16th, 1982, a year or so before junior was born and I haven't had a substance since. I "graduated" from there and went on with my life trial and error like everybody else. The only difference was that I was contacted by a former Straight Parent whose kid got abused terribly and will have to be in special care for the rest of his life because of the type of "therapy" he received.
This man did his homework and educated me how Straight Inc. and its spin-offs destroyed thousands of families and made millions at it. I already provided you with his link in my last post to you, I will add that everything he wrote down in that website can be backed up with legitimate sources. I found out by reading up on all these sites that I was experiencing PTSD in the ways of nightmares, flashbacks, depression, and unnecessary guilt for starts. I blamed myself for everything that was ever wrong with my family. That's is what those so-called "therapeutic" places teach. They make YOU the parent faultless and stick all the blame in the world on your kid. That's a hell of an incentive to keep your kid there. They tell you your kid is manipulative and label him a "druggie", when all the time they are the true manipulators and have had literally 30 years in its current state to perfect to work the most to their advantage.
In one ear and out the other??? Now frankly, I don't suffer one bit no matter what you decide to do, the damage done to me all those years ago is done, I am only doing this for your kid, trying to save at least one person from experiencing what I did by simply telling you the truth. Verbal abuse is the worst form, your kid can not have any privacy and therefore can not escape it, because it is drilled in him from the early morning when he wakes up, till late at night when he goes to bed, no brakes from it ever, this is BRAINWASHING. They will tell him how worthless he is, how he screwed everybody over. Over and over again he will hear these statements they continually made in his mind until he actually believes it himself. he will lose reasoning ability because of this, you will become blameless and he will become blameful in his mind. Essentially you are allowing them to intervene in his natural ability to make mistakes on his own and learn from them as part of becoming an adult. If you allow them to manipulate you daily (as they will do) to keep you kid in there telling you he will be dead without them, then that's on you, consider yourself warned, you have to live with falling prey to their manipulation of your family situation, and you have to live with the decision you make of what you do about it, not me.
How are those parent group discussions these days? I agree with Ginger, I bet they are leaving you alone now, just give it a little time, soon you will be confronted for even questioning them at GT by having the audacity to talk to us heathens. I think your trying to make yourself "right" no matter what you came on telling us all these things wrong with your son, nothing about what was wrong with you, or others in your family that contributed to dysfunction, it was ALL him, Ok, sure.
If I seem impassioned about this topic, good, I have seen a lot in these last 19 years most of those who were on staff telling me what to do without question are back using drugs, so much for that once boasted 75% success rate they were promoting all those years ago. Some are dead. Some are getting along OK, but are in therapy, wonder why they need therapy? Some are drinking, some aren't, a lot still believe they have drug problems, maybe some really did, but does that mean that everybody that went in there had a "problem", or were the majority of people in there from upper income families that afford to be there and pay the high price.
Oh yeah, why don't I use? I take a bit of medicine now and then and a good adult decision would be not to use any substance while taking medicine, you want the best healing advantage you can get, so how about that, an adult choice has been made without the "help" of Straight Inc., or GT.
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« on: October 01, 2001, 01:28:50 PM »
Blopa
Thank you for writing,
I hope you have had the chance to see the police report about Growing Together at the following link. Its contents concern a sex abuse charge. Scroll down a bit over halfway down and look for the heading "Sex abuse and rights of children in Florida rehab programs", there are 5 further links concerning that police report. I hope that tells you something about Growing Together that the ones running it didn't want you to know. I would implore you to MAKE yourself find other options for your troubled kid. These people are not the answer, don't let them sucker you in anymore saying to you they are it, the only ones that can "help" you kid. The methods they use to "fix" your kid require extreme mental abuse him leaving him shell shocked with lifetime nightmares and perinea, and falsely guilt-ridden for life, you will take what ever problem there was with him before and only add more to his already long list.
http://fornits.com/straight/headlinenews/index.htm'>fornits.com/straight/head.../index.htm
Growing together is just a spin-off of Straight Inc., with a new name. Please read up on it at http://thestraights.com/straight/'>thestraights.com/straight/
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« on: December 02, 2001, 02:58:08 AM »
Same old song & dance......
I've given out to you till I'm blue in the face Pablo, you don't listen, you just brush aside everything that is said to you. You try to "convince" us all that what you are doing to your kid is right. I sometimes wonder if you are really just trying to convince yourself that you think you right or why else would continue to keep coming back here all these weeks later. Remember now, we are the "screw-ups" according to GT, why do you still want to hang around here anyway?, you obviously got it all figured out. You run a good business, make good money, you must think of yourself as such a "success", so what could we possibly tell you that you don't already know? If your looking for some kind of guarantee that your choice was right, your not going to find it here.....People here went through 20 years ago what your son is experiencing NOW, and I don't think you are seeing too many good results from our experiences Pablo. So why Pablo do you keep coming back?
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« on: October 01, 2001, 05:15:47 PM »
Still don't get it...
"BTW you still do not offer an alternative treatment."
My God, everything you have been told by all of us, and you still refer to that place as "treatment".
Why don't you try NOT locking him away from you, and talk to him instead of entrusting him to complete strangers for starts, sounds like he has had a smorgasbord of places to help "fix" him in his short 17 years of life, what the hell about you?, has he had YOU to talk to yet? or did that go to off to the side while you were piling up all the money? Go into family counseling, study the end affects of brainwashing and what survivors of brainwashing go through day to day because you're going to need the information to deal with you own kid's Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that you and GT have introduced to him. You might find a good therapist for him and you for that matter, one that is familiar with Synanon based MIND RAPING methods because that's the new thing you got to add to the list on top of all the rest of juniors "ailments" boss.
Level with me, when you first started lurking our websites and posted your first message (listing off all these things he did), did you list your son's "problems" off the 20 questions pamphlet they gave you? Do you honestly think that the 20 questions thing started in GT, lol.
"Ken, I am not interested in winning any argument with you, prove you wrong, etc. as I understand you are only trying to help me and my kid. It just surprises me that you refer to GT as if was a copy of Straight. You know Straight, you do not not GT and you ignore the differences I point out to you."
Well you right there, I am actually genuinely concerned amazingly for someone I never even met that I know is being tortured up in his mind, this is getting real personal, I am speaking for somebody that can NOT speak for himself, YOUR son. Pay close attention now.......GT was born out of Straight and uses the same mind raping methods that straight used on all us all those years ago, savvy?
"You know Straight, you do not not GT and you ignore the differences I point out to you."
I think your saying I don't know GT, only Straight, wrong, I know the methods GT uses, I know that there were homosexual abuse charges brought up against GT in a police report that I bet they didn't tell you upon you admitting you child, and entrusting him to. I know that you yourself have said that he has NO privacy and I know that this is a main brainwashing tactic right there not to mention the sheer humiliation of it, (bathroom ect...)
You are fixed in your beliefs, there is NO stopping you, they have you "convinced" another dollar in the pot for them, another ruined human being. I would NEVER put my kid in a place like that under ANY circumstances, those people who run places like that ought to be jailed. Don't worry though, I, like everybody here will do what they can to expose these sickos with or without your help.
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« on: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM »
You just don't get it do ya??.......
Those people that run GT prey on people like you. It's not because you're such a nice guy, it's not because they have a genuine concern for your kid, You have a couple of dollars in the bank and that' all they want, MONEY plain and simple. Look around the room at GT, and what do you see, you don't see kids from the SLUMS do you??
The majority of us that post here and on the other sites came from upper middle income backgrounds, that's who these Straight-like places target people with MONEY.
Here's a quote from you I found particularly special:
"I think that some sort of serious re-programming of the mind (aka brain washing) would have to take place to make such a radical change in someoneâ??s concepts, thinking process, feeling process, etc."
That to me that is plain disgusting, to read such garbage. Oh yes, it's OK as long as it's happening to somebody else and not yourself, hell, for that matter, it's OK even if it's your own kid, just throw him into the hands of complete strangers you've never met before and walk away??,well think again ace. Your child is your most precious resource and YOU have been given a RARE opportunity, an opportunity that most of our parents 20 years ago would of begged to have if it were available to them, a chance to talk to 20 year survivors of MIND RAPE MILLS such as GT who have given their very heart and sole to you about the aftereffects of untold pain caused by brainwashing. People like us who have had time to research these sickos, know their game, and all the steps they took along the way for some 30 years to perfect their scam on people like you, it amazes the @#%$ right out of me that you would trust them over us, I'm shaking my head right now in complete disbelief. I know guys, I shouldn't be, I realize we've only been exposing these bastards for a year or so now.
Just taking a stab here, did you ever read up on communist re-education camps?? They use the same sick MIND RAPING tactics in those camps, where do you think the brainwashing kids concept was "barrowed" from. I'm sure were also soon going to find out that this is how the kids in poor middle eastern families are recruited and "educated" to hate Americans, it's just a matter of time before this all comes out and makes the headlines, I'm sure then that you won't mind being the poster-dad advocating brainwashing centers for anything YOU perceive wrong with kids. Did YOU ever go through adolescence, were you ever defiant to your parents, EVER?? How did they correct you? Did they entrust you to strangers?, careful now, your halo is slipping.
Here's a good one from you:
"Worse case, if he survives this treatment and will take him (as you say) 15 years to get â??rightâ?? again, that implies that we will be alive 15 years from now, and that is good news. It certainly beats the alternative."
I think if I were able to turn back the clock, I would of rather find another way of dealing with whatever issues there were at the time concerning my adolescence. Sure, to the outside world, I am a "success", but why the hell is it that when the internet was introduced to this world did I find myself on it advocating the humane treatment of kids and exposing sick MIND RAPE MILLS such as YOUR kid is in??? hmmm? Must be for my health, my emotional health.
Now try to remember these next words I ought to send a recommendation to the AD Council for a public service announcement:
A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO RAPE
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