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Thayer Learning Center / Re: Why the silence here about Thayer????
« on: December 17, 2008, 02:11:15 AM »
Quote from: "former cadet"
Mr. Reyes died from a spider bite, not from abuse. The people at thayer want nothing but the best for all cadets there, thats why its open, for troubled kids to find their way again. I think it would be nice if the people that posted things on here had actually been there in person and been through the program the right way and that they are still on the right track and not screwed up again, because there are alot of us who have made it.
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I MADE IT AND TLC HELPED ME!


from a medical stand point there is no conclusive evidence to support your clam that a spider bite caused the death. the autopsy report says it may have but with all the other wounds that were found on him as well as the internal injury's it is likely that it was a list of things that caused his death. IMO. i have not read all the reports yet but from what i have read it is much more than a spider bite. if you are so sure that it was a spider bite my question to you is this. what medical classes have you taken? how do you know on your own account that it was a spider bite or are you just going on what people are saying and not what the reports say?

if they care so much than why did he have 30 fucking wounds on his body? some ulcerating? and all they gave him was an ointment, band aid, and ibuprofen? this should have had a broad spectrum antibiotic. as well as a doctor visit. this kid was not faking it and the staff knew it. (see shift reports) dont listen to what the program tells you grow up and learn to read reports.

granted i may not have been in your program but i do know some medical stuff and from what i can see buddy your are plane ass wrong. this is not a caring program.

this is my fav "thats why its open, for troubled kids to find their way again." where to the freaking morgue?

i have a saying "how many must die for the troubled teens to survive?" the answer not one person. if these programs were so good no one and i mean NO ONE would die.

put your self in the parents shoes how would you feel if your child died due to neglect. wait never mind please dont procreate we dont need more people like you to dumb us down.

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Thayer Learning Center / Re: Why the silence here about Thayer????
« on: December 16, 2008, 07:23:45 AM »
also of note the brusing that the autopsy has noted is oval in shape. not for sure if you know but a fist can make that impression as well.   the broken clavicle come on that takes some force. and his mom would have noticed the EXTREMA pain he would have been in.  

shift report "so i gave him 1 arm pushups for the other arm."    NO thats not going to cause increased presser in blood flow that could make the puss uziing sore more likely to uzi more. im sorry if you dont allow swearing on the site but oh my fucking god. these people are fucking genesis

Blake Henriksen reported he and Dortothy Steele were "closely monitoring him"
if this is true that why on November 1, 2004 did he have to CRAWL SEVERAL FEET to get water???

november 3, 2004 temp of 94.1 at 0955 and at 1300 it was 94?? jesus christ red flags up the ass. i mean oh my god i would be kicked out of EMS if i did not transport for this. 94 i cant fucking believe this shit.

this is medical neglect if i have ever saw it.

he didnt die from a spider bite he did from stupidity of staff, lack of trained staff and a medical incompetent nurse.  

again this is my opinion but dam medical conditions dont take a freaking rocket scientist to figure "oh his temp is 94 something must be wrong."

now this is what gets me from the coroners report. 30 abrasions contusions and ulcerating wounds all over his body. any and i mean ANY ems or EMT will tell you that 5 is grounds to call CPS on possible child abuse but 30.

this was not child abuse this was fucking human torture. plane and simple.

i have to stop now  or i think i will die. will write more latter.

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Thayer Learning Center / Re: Why the silence here about Thayer????
« on: December 16, 2008, 06:43:50 AM »
just from the autopsy report i am mortified. ulcerating wounds on his body?? and they didnt get help WTF. he also had pulmonary edema?? come on that does not set in over night people. as well as recent hemorrhaging to subcutis  and dermis of the right arm.

well we know he was smoking pot prior to death.

medication that i can see (i am not a doctor folks so i am going on what i know) ibuprofen.

with all the wounds i would consider talking to the staff to see where they came from. (here again it is not up to the coroner to decide to do this it is up to LEO's to do that) just too dam many for my liking as EMS. especally if they are ulcerating.

the report does not conclusively say that it was the spider bite. which means that it could have caused the death not that it was the cause of death. looking at the report if it was a spider bite than good dying from pulmonary edema is a LOT worse. i hate to say it but he died painfully but not as painfully as he could have.

jesus this makes me sick.

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Thayer Learning Center / Re: Why the silence here about Thayer????
« on: December 16, 2008, 05:05:55 AM »
sorry for the intrushion but i had to say something. a spider bite can be deadly but a lot are not. HOWEVER as any one trained in a medical field you are tough to MONITOR it if you dont have the spider. you never know.

not knowing the circumstances behind the death i cant really say much from a medical stand point (can someone get me the medical files on it and i will take a look) but ANY ONE trained in medical knows with out a doubt that high temp AS WELL AS LOW TEMP will kill. there is no excuse for not knowing unless you only medical knowledge comes from a standard first aid class which you did not take the refresher on.(also the basic first aid covers spider bites and what to look for so again no excuse)

it is medical malpractice from what i can tell. unless they did not have ANY medical training. and than it is negligence to obtain medical help.

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News Items / Re: Emergency situation! Kids being forced from their home!
« on: December 16, 2008, 02:58:57 AM »
the states are doing this more and more cause they get money from the feds if they have kids in foster care. so if these kids are not with their parents and the state thinks it can get the kids in they system all they see is $$$$$. and now with the economy they will do what ever they can to get more money. sad that the kids suffer because politicians cant balance the dam books.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Fag-fixing and the Moral Majority
« on: December 08, 2008, 03:21:07 AM »
i know that at wwasps they would single you out if you said you were gay. they would hound you and say that you were lying to yourself.

same for religion. if you were not christian or Jewish or had different views, (one of the boys that was with me in TB believed that god was a women) that person would also be singled out and harsh words would be said or punishments like op would be given until you changed your mind.

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if its anything like at SCL or TB you have to eat at least 50% of it or its a cat 3 or 5 (refusal) depending on the staff. ether way it is a loss of most if not all points.  :poison:  :beat:

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Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "guest"
AboutSpecialtySchools - http://www.askboardingschools.com/schools.html

Parent Teen Help NOW! - http://www.hmtoptions.com/

Help for Troubled Teens - http://www.specialtyboardingschools.com/

http://psoptions.net/

http://www.schools4teens.com/index.html

http://teenassessments.com/

http://askboardingschools.com/schools.html

http://www.aateens.com/index.html

I'm not sure whether to classify this as spam or stuff we should research.

they are websites used by wwasp/TR so i would say it is not spam.

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this is one of my other posts it has a list of some of the websites i have found for wwasps.

http://www.antiwwasp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903

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here again the warranty is what gives it away as wwasps. they are the only on to my knowledge to have such a thing. and with the same programs as wwasps has, like the program said if it walks like a duck sounds like a duck and has feathers like a duck it must be a duck.

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from what i have read and heard the are no longer with wwasps just like most of the schools instead they have changed their (wwasps) name to teen revitalization. if you look at their web page it has all the old wwasps school. i guess that wwasps got too much bad pub and switched their name.

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not sure if anyone else is near iowa but around here no one likes it when people get to protesting let alone just showing up and handing out pamphlets. now if we can get this web page up and running i would recomend sending a letter as well as a link to the des moins (sorry cant spell) news media. they may eat this up and than the town would look bad for having so much controversy. i can really see this turning to our advantage.

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message sent.

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is there an external link to this like a news article?


Quote from: "Che Gookin"
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3 Full time staff members at Midwest Academy including Howard V. were placed on the State of Iowa Child Abuse Registry in February 2006 as a result of an Iowa Department of Human Services Investigation of their actions towards at least one student who is my son. I believe this facual circumstance could be representative of the short comings of the entire organization. Make your own judgements. Interesting that Midwest Academy is not a licensed or registered school in Iowa. It exists based upon the homestudy program of the local Keokuk High School. You have to wonder what the connection between the local High School and Midwest Academy actually is.... And why. Midwest Academy exists because it is an unregulated facility in Iowa with no external supervision or licensing. Just ask for proof and you will find out just as I did. Don't take their word for it.
Just ask who the credentialed teachers and administrators are, how many credentialed or simply college degree carrying teacher assistants there are for the total number of students and you will learn pretty fast for yourself what this place is... "a warehouse for kids" owned by an organization that markets to desperate parents" is my opinion.

This quote bears further investigation^


It came off this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=11024&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=Midwest+Academy&start=30

Not quite sure how to proceed on this one.

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ok i sent an e-mail lets see if i have learned anything from kev on how to do this.

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