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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello everyone! ...Atlanta Straight alumni here....
« on: October 22, 2002, 01:50:00 AM »
To be exact, I "winged it out" in 11 months,15 days and roughly 22 hours, hell, I still had 2 months to prepare for my 14th birthday. You're exactly right I should surely be over it by now. Ya'll have been a wonderful help!!!!!

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello everyone! ...Atlanta Straight alumni here....
« on: October 21, 2002, 10:56:00 AM »
James, trying to tell me that Buttimer wasn't there during that time is about the equivalent of me telling you that Sembler is a figment of your imagination. The man did one hell of a head job on me during my intake that effected me the whole year I was there. Every time he entered the room I would start to shake and sweat, much like I am right now. A condition that made it real hard when he called on me during executive raps to appear that I wasn't guilty of something,which I rarely ever was cosidering I was scared to death and a complete conformist, which in turn only heightened my anxiety. Any time he was around I was in complete state of panic. So, if you don't agree with me, do the reasearch but don't make me out to be a fraud or just "mistaken". I apologize if my statements about the "bathroom incedent" put you on the defensive but I am only here to try and make some sense of all this mess, not to attack you.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello everyone! ...Atlanta Straight alumni here....
« on: October 21, 2002, 10:06:00 AM »
All I know is that Buttimer resided over  my intake in July 84. He was the driving force behind all of my sister's set backs, stuff like that is hard to forget. I remember Tilly coming in right before I stepped in June 85 and I don't recall ever seeing Buttimer after the day all that happened. I always assumumed he got fired or left because of it. What I am absolutely sure of is that he was the exec. for the major portion of my program. I was 12 years old and terrified of the man.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / various people I'm remembering from Atlanta
« on: October 20, 2002, 07:00:00 PM »
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On 2002-09-27 15:37:00, hedwigfan wrote:
I'm wondering about what happened to several people...Letha Yost, Nancy Ellmann, Alicia Crabtree, Tylene Freeman, Teresa Swoop, Eve Gee, a girl named Stacey, Michelle Wagner and her brother...Whatever happened to that guy Dennis, who stabbed Chad Kennimore in the chest? Isn't it weird that Chad came back to group after that whole ordeal? Just wondering.
Teresa married Chance Durant and they lived in Jackson,Ms for a while, might still be there.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta early days
« on: October 20, 2002, 06:55:00 PM »
If it's the same kid who had Satan carved in one arm, 666 in the other and an upside-down cross on his face, I'm pretty sure his name was Eric. I'm trying hard to recall a last name but can't at this point. If you ever do find out anything about him I'd really like to know. I think about him probally more than any other person. As an adult with a 12 year old daughter of my own,I am haunted looking back at the things that kid did to himself.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / ATLANTA 84-85
« on: October 20, 2002, 06:45:00 PM »
That was me asking Scott Lewis about idetifiers to place who he is, not Scott Nalls. I read what happened at the bowling ally and just didn't want you to think I was him. I had just posted that message before I set up a user name.
                     Marc

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / atlanta straight
« on: October 20, 2002, 06:36:00 PM »
Thought that was you. Amazing what a couple days without sleep a near emotional break-down can bring back to memory(ha-ha).

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta, GA Straight, Inc...Anyone left saved from suicide?
« on: October 20, 2002, 06:23:00 PM »
Thanks you Clay. Steve was the first oldcomer I had that treated me like a human. He became like a big brother to me, took me under his wing and all. I lived at his house in the Chamblee-Dunwoody area where he and his mom made me feel like one of the family...one of the few good memories I have.He 7-stepped a couple of weeks after I made 2nd phase but I've always remembered his kindness towards me. I talked to him some after getting out but we eventually lost touch. Years later I heard rumor that he had died but at that point in life I was running hard from any memories of Straight so I never investigated it. I'm really glad to hear it wasn't true.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / various people I'm remembering from Atlanta
« on: October 20, 2002, 04:36:00 AM »
Hello Cecile,
     My name is Marc Shelton, My sister was Kris. I wrote a pretty lenghty explaination of who I am and my circumstances surrounding Straight but for sme reason they aren't appearing on the board. I forgot to login before submitting it, so maybe that was the problem. Maybe it will appear later as an anonomous post so I won't repeat it all right now. I'm going on about 48 hours without sleep right now, I've been kinda high strung thinking about all this stuff. I just responded to your brothers post on another forum and hope he understands I hold him no ill will. For right now I'll just say I'm glad to have found you and hope to talk more in the future.
            Marc

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello everyone! ...Atlanta Straight alumni here....
« on: October 20, 2002, 03:44:00 AM »
Like I said, I wasn't there when it went down and I'm in no way accusing you of being responsible. We all, I would suppose, did things to other people we are ashamed of and would never do under normal circumstances. Unfortunately, cruelty was just a part of the methodology of the program and it was inevietable if you planned on ever getting out of there not to mention that by the time you reached your higher phases you really believed the things you were doing to people was helping to save their lives, or at least I did. I in no way blame you for the events of that day, if I remember you correctly you were a pretty kind hearted guy and a fairly good trainee in respect to treating people fairly. Unless my memory is totally whacked though, I do remember blood,holesin the walls and torn clothing in the bathroom and I believe Donny K. from Gastonia was messed up pretty bad. Things like that happened. Blaming other victims does no good for anyone. I do hold executive staff responsible though. They were completely aware of what was being done to us and not only did nothing to stop it but profited from it. There were also several girls hurt pretty bad that day, so yes, it did take place on the girls side too. I'm sorry for the pain that time has caused you and I hope that life with freedom  from the effects of it is on the horizon for us both.
                   Marc

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta, GA Straight, Inc...Anyone left saved from suicide?
« on: October 19, 2002, 01:11:00 PM »
I have alot of information about various Mississippi members of Atlanta. I am looking for several people myself.... Dan Christ, Doug Drago, Tina Gardner, and Steve Palmer(though I believe he is dead but hope I'm wrong) to name a few. I would appriciate any info you might have. Thanks.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta, GA Straight, Inc...Anyone left saved from suicide?
« on: October 19, 2002, 01:10:00 PM »
I have alot of information about various Mississippi members of Atlanta. I am looking for several people myself.... Dan Christ, Doug Drago, Tina Gardner, and Steve Palmer(though I believe he is dead but hope I'm wrong) to name a few. I would appriciate any info you might have. Thanks.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Atlanta, GA Straight, Inc...Anyone left saved from suicide?
« on: October 19, 2002, 01:03:00 PM »

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / atlanta straight
« on: October 19, 2002, 12:57:00 PM »
Clay,
 Did you have glasses and blonde hair? Just trying to put a face to your name.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hello everyone! ...Atlanta Straight alumni here....
« on: October 19, 2002, 12:39:00 PM »
I was there. It was May or June of 85. Days off were called in because the "condition of the group". No one could move up on phases and no one could could 7-step. Hell they had even taken our "singing privledges" away, which I have to say I was grateful for, I always hated that crap, still can't hear a James Taylor song without getting angry or depressed. But anyway, all that to say that staff had created a very hostile environment towards the 18 or so people that were "mis behaving" at the time. Thank God I was at school or work, can't remember which, at the time it happened. I was on 5th phase, so probally would have been involved if I had been there. Iremember coming in and seeing the blood, torn clothing, and holes in tahe walls in the guys bath room and asking another 5th phaser what happened. I remember his response to this day. He enthusiastically said it was "rightous" that Buttimer had given us the go ahead to kick some ass.Even in my brainwashed 5th phase S.S. metality, I felt sick. I it had gone way to far. Alot of people got really hurt that day... the kind of hurts that don't go away with stitches and casts.

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