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Aspen Education Group / Re: TO EMILY GRAEBER (Island View escapee):
« on: January 02, 2009, 03:23:27 AM »
Quote from: "emily graeber"
Quote from: "Guest"
Does anyone know if she's going back?

someone trustworthy?



this is emily. i did go back and after another 9 months, i graduated and am now at a boarding school in new hampshier called the white mountain school. its been a year now since i ran away, it feels like it was yesterday now.
just wanted to let everybody know that im doing fine, although i hate my school a lot.
peace and love
emily
I am truly sorry that you had to go through that. If it becoming too hard to adjust back to the real world our wiki datasheet has a lot of links to survivor groups, who knows what you are dealing with. You are unfortunately not alone.

Stay strong. Maybe 2009 would be the year you can be released back into society. I have checked your present boarding school and while they use wilderness and community service, which here in Denmark are regarded for as an alternative only, it seems that it is less a prison.

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Facility Question and Answers / Re: ABM Ministries
« on: January 01, 2009, 04:47:24 PM »
We have them under investigation for being Mountain Park Academy working under a new name. Datasheet on the wiki

Mountain Park was closed down which requires a lot when we are talking about Missouri.

I believe that they are under some kind of supervision because they have removed the old student handbook which spoke of the use of corporal punishment (To be read here) and replaced it with new guidelines to the staff forbidding them to use corporal punishment.

The old parentmanual stated:
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Before enrolling a student, parents are expected to sign a statement indicating that they have read, understand and agree to have their child governed by all policies, rules and regulations of the academy and to have corporal discipline administered to their child in accordance to those rules.

Mountain Park was a bad place. A boy was killed there so the offenders could end up in prison instead for many years because they believed it was better. You can see his name on our death list. His name was Will Futrelle.

She will most likely end up suffering from some kind of PTSD. You can read the "Mountain Park Magazine Article" - page 1 to 4 and understand how it is to reenter the world from an enclosed box as a program in reallity is.

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Lighthouse of northwest florida (fka VCA )/ Rebekah / Roloff ) / Update on Palm Lane Baptist Boarding Academy
« on: January 01, 2009, 02:37:26 PM »
While investigating what should have been a closed program I found that too many things indicating an active program.

So my question is whether

Pal, Lane Academy aka
Palm Lane Baptist Academy aka
Palm Lane Baptist Boarding Academy

located on 3193 Southwest Beard Street, Arcadia, Florida is open. I have the address from a kind of court document and when I plot the address into Google Maps, it answers with the name of the lockdown.

Could anyone based in Florida call 863-993-3233 and find out if it currently is owned by the school or a church only. Use a public phone so you cannot be traced. Long-distance calls are our only method right now and it would blow our cover so if someone it up to giving us a little hand, we would be happy.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: To whom it may concern,
« on: December 30, 2008, 06:10:14 PM »
Sutton after a stay at Paradise Cove.

I have no links about the AARC incident.

Maybe Robinson before entering the feared Steppin' Stone Farm. One of the boys testified against her in a plea deal and she was out on drugs, so none would ever know.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Blod and Beutiful star promotes private prison (AIR)
« on: December 27, 2008, 03:46:32 AM »
Well, we started yesterday trying to count them when they appear. See our new victims page here.

We saw the result of the hard work they have done at the Kids of Bergen County website. See all the Rips.

Of course it can not on only one page, but now we have started. I got a spreadsheet at one point and the page(s) will be expanded soon.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: WWASP Experiences
« on: December 26, 2008, 07:08:45 PM »
The previous post wasn't me but frankly we from the Scandinavian countries are very cold where we rest when we sit down on our ice-blocks. No surprise here if you have been awake all the time.

If you think we miss that and should attend a LGAT to ensure an emontional growth which could result in us being illsuited to function in our culture where we all are cold-harded and reserved, when we don't consume alcohol you are very mistaken. We are like that and while I also only see my sister once or twice per year, I do talk to them on my phone every week.

If you dont understand us thats fine, but this thread doesn't benefit any anti-BM cause in any way. It is only deflecting our attention!

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: WWASP Experiences
« on: December 26, 2008, 05:49:22 PM »
Could we not end this thread?

Dylan is her son and if she feel like supporting him until he retires from the work force, then let her regardless of the fact that is doesn't help him. She is sorry for sending him there and as it is with every mother-offspring relationship where the mother have bad conscience and try to buy excuses believing it is love, it will backfire. But it is her choice. We have said that it will backfire and it properly had already, but she is an adult making descisions and we should respect that she is ready to take the consequences.

So please stop the thread!

Digging into these personal things like what happened in the past are not important now. We cannot change them. What we can change is the future and if we shouldn't waste our time, then write down what happened, where it happend and who did it. Post it online and include it as a references on the right wiki-page. Find out where the staff went and if they still are in the BM-industry. Publish every single bit on info about existing programs, so you can become the last survivors or relatives of survivors who went there.

We are getting somewhere finding new info every single day. Find out mates in the programs and get them to give their small contributions so yet more of the layers covering the programs up can be removed. Please stop fighting.

Pam: Please go to anti-wwasp. Jensp has new info to work on.  FemanonFatal2.0: Please go back to Troubled-Teen-Industry. I found a couple of script issued teasing european versions of IE7 and KlausK has a little titbit for you also.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Blod and Beutiful star promotes private prison (AIR)
« on: December 26, 2008, 01:36:13 PM »
Hunter Tylo promotes AIR,

Life & Leisure TV - Academy at Ivy Ridge.

When we investigated we found that she lost a son under rather mysterious circumstances. As we scan the news, we find suicides and bizarre accidents claiming a lot of lives among the survivors.

Could she be a program parent?

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Open Free for All / Boot Camps for parents
« on: December 26, 2008, 05:18:36 AM »
Boot camp for parents, Star Tribune

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Alisha Carter, who has two children, is one of the participants in a boot camp-style parenting class held at Harvest Prep school. The course called Project Murua drills parents in hopes of improving parent-child relationships, creating a support system and honing disciplinary skills.

At least some parents looks in the minor and find a huge part of the problems their kids have.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: What Idaho Boot Camp?
« on: December 26, 2008, 04:28:55 AM »
I am not certain. I found another piece:

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Jenny flunked out of Dalton and briefly spent time at a boot-camp-style school in Idaho that required chopping wood, 24-hour, no-sleep "emotional-growth sessions," and constant supervision. After two months, Kay, concerned about reports she was receiving about Jenny, flew out to see her, and when school officials tried to block the visit, Kay insisted on bringing her daughter home.

As Jenny tells this story she grows visibly upset. But she has such an essentially sunny personality that she wants to end the anecdote on a fiercely positive, what-I-learned note: "The biggest thing -- don't take freedom for granted," she says. "You put things in perspective. Look at the problems I have -- Gee, I can't get fabulous tuna, just great tuna? I have my health. I am living every moment that I can. You have to. It's so short. I'm so lucky that I'm 22 and I know that."

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Any other info about this boot camp school?
« on: December 26, 2008, 04:16:43 AM »
It is called New Directions Academy and is located in Indianapolis.

It seems that it created a killer.

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In February 2002, Bess, then 13, was arrested at the New Directions Academy, a boot camp-style school, for refusing to follow the rules and being belligerent to staff, police records show.

A odd reason to arrest someone on.

That is what I have:

New Directions School
2401 E 25th St
Indianapolis, IN 46218

Can anyone digg deeper and find website, handbooks etc?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / What Idaho Boot Camp?
« on: December 26, 2008, 03:28:39 AM »
Jennifer Oz Leroy - in the food business.

She was in Idaho Women Biz-link

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Jennifer LeRoy had a privileged childhood. At her bat mitzvah at the family's Amagansett estate, airplanes dived in trick plays over the house; costumed characters from the Wizard of Oz (which her grandfather Mervyn LeRoy produced and directed) welcomed guests; stilt-walkers and magicians worked the crowd. Her great-grandfather, Harry Warner, was a founder of Warner Brothers Studios.

But those early days were not without problems. LeRoy is dyslexic, she flunked out of ritzy private school Dalton, endured a brief spell at a boot-camp-style school in Idaho and was badly injured in an equestrian accident as a teen participating in the Hamptons Classic. (She has since placed high in the legendary competition.)

What is the name of the boot camp?

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Lighthouse of northwest florida (fka VCA )/ Rebekah / Roloff ) / Reclamation Ranch and Rachel Academy - update
« on: December 25, 2008, 07:13:02 AM »
According to the december newsletter, they have given up imprisoning boys and are now only housing males over 18 after the raid.

However the girls home - Rachel Academy - continue to have girls detained at their facility.

We have studied various photos and it seems that the girls academy is located here.

Still it would be nice to have the exact address of the boys home because they could slip away from justice and then they are up and running again.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: To whom it may concern,
« on: December 25, 2008, 06:01:20 AM »
Here in the Scandinavian countries we are against of ordering violence or doing it ourselves.

If we really need to hurt someone we join the military so we can travel to Afghanistan or Iraq to kill some for fun. As a Christian such behavior is encouraged by the vexillum sancti Petri.

Otherwise we settle by providing information that can upset people so the enemies start killings among themselves as it was the case with Cartoon Crisis.

I would recommend that you use your anger in the proper way and join the military so you can provide safety to the rest of the world by taking a terrorist or two out in Iraq.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Scackled teen: No case, if it had been at a private school
« on: December 24, 2008, 03:22:54 AM »
Protecting our sources is sometime a problem when two of them are in the same place and they dont know who the other is. We had a photo incident where one of our volunteers took a photo of another who didn't wanted to be published and because they communicate with different case workers in Europe we cannot warn them about another one being present. We managed to solve it without giving names. To this day I dont know if they know who the other is.

Yes, we are talking about Fornits Wiki. We are only on message boards if new information needs to be put forward or a little info could save a thread about to be derailed.

About the links: A long time ago Fornits used one type of php. Then they switched to smf and then back to another kind of php. If you take a link from an page who has not been reformatted, then you are sent to the message board, but only to the main page. People have to land on the exact thread or else we drops in the Google ranks.

Just a remark: We links to site like strugglingteens too when useful, but we always writes: strugglingteens.com - industry marketing firm

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