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On 2005-04-22 06:06:00, linchpin wrote:

"Will Ferron ( I was one of the last persons to see him alive pm for details..he was close friend and I am not gonna post details)

Vance Hudson

Stewart (forgot last name)

Geena Golden

Marilee Kossack



Theres more gimme a day or so to think..Straight was a blackout for me..my 12 year old mind shut down and couldnt handle it..spent alot of cash on stuff to putin a syringe to help with my forgetting..worked too  :silly: "

Tim Nixon killed his mom w/ a baseball bat. Jeff Spears died of a heroin overdose.

Do you know the circumstances of the other deaths? The public has a right to know what these places push our minds to do. How it's psychological torture, not to mention sexual, and physical. Take our minds, our identities, in essence our souls. And they did, and they're getting away with it. However, this subject is getting a lot of media attention because from what I can tell there are around 9 hotspots in the US where WWASPS and WWASPS-like programs are under fire with scrutiny.  This is a chance for us to exercise our constitutional rights.  They?re already listening, we have their attention right now.

Part of this federal bill senator George Miller wants to pass, the "End Institutional Abuse Against Children Act" would be to hold those guilty in the past criminally culpable for their actions. So, the Melvin Semblers of the US would be in jail instead of the ambassadors to Italy, or filthy rich Utah businessmen.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#97024

In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.
--James Madison, U.S. President

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EST 1983
Salesmanship Club '84-'86
Straight, Inc. '86-'88

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke

Representative Miller Introduces Legislation to Curb Child Abuse in Residential Treatment Programs

Bill Would Affect Facilities both in U.S. and Abroad

Wednesday, April 20, 2005


WASHINGTON, DC -- Representative George Miller (D-California) today announced new legislation to combat child abuse at residential treatment programs in the U.S. and abroad.

?There is no excuse for placing children in unlicensed programs with badly trained and abusive staff members, which could lead to mental, physical, and sexual abuse,? said Miller, the senior Democrat on the Education and the Workforce Committee. ?It is truly frightening when the very people entrusted to care for and protect children are actually the ones who endanger them. Residential programs for children should be licensed and meet reasonable safety and staff training standards.?

In November 2003, Miller asked then-Attorney General John Ashcroft to investigate the World Wide Associations of Specialty Programs (WWASP), an organization with several campuses in the U.S. and abroad that provides ?behavior modification? programs for troubled youth, for allegations of child abuse and human rights violations.

Miller first requested the investigation after The New York Times ran a series of articles containing the allegations against WWASP. Despite repeated follow-up requests, however, the Department of Justice refused to investigate. Meanwhile, allegations of abuse continued to surface in published news reports. In December 2004 and January 2005, news agencies reported that five U.S.-owned residential treatment centers in Mexico had been closed by local authorities for numerous health violations and for placing children in punishment cells.

In an effort to deal once and for all with the problem of abuse at residential treatment programs for children, Miller today introduced the ?End Institutional Abuse Against Children Act.? The bill would:

provide $50 million in funding to states to support the licensing of child residential treatment programs. States would have to monitor the programs regularly to ensure their compliance with licensing requirements;
establish federal civil and criminal penalties for the abuse of children in residential treatment programs;
expand federal authority to regulate programs located overseas but run by U.S. companies and provide civil penalties for program operators that violate federal regulations; and
require the State Department to report any abuse of American children overseas.
Residential treatment (or ?behavior modification?) programs are intended to help children with behavioral problems, like substance abuse. Miller stressed that many of these programs provide safe, valuable services to children and their families. But he said that stronger legislation was clearly necessary to ensure the safety of all children in such programs ? and particularly in programs overseas, where organizations have moved their facilities to avoid existing U.S. laws.

?Parents are sending their children to these programs because of a promise that they will help resolve difficult behavioral issues, like substance abuse,? said Miller. ?But the way kids have been treated at some of these facilities would make any parent shudder.?

Good additional reading, thanks.  :tup:

Write your local congressmen too, good idea.  :tup:

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml

http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm



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EST 1983
Salesmanship Club '84-'86
Straight, Inc. '86-'88

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke

My mom did Herbalife too.  :roll:

On 2005-04-21 07:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Interesting post.  In Sept.'04, it was talk to him when he is not in Thayer and you will find out he was "brainwashed".  I did, and he is fine, the school worked.



Now, it is talk to him when he is married and has kids.  Then I am to learn Thayer did not work.



I can just see your next resposne -- assuming you are not dead from a drug overdose -- and that is I should now wait to speak with him when he has grandchildren!



The problem for you all is that in at least one case Thayer worked, and you just cannot accept that.  You cannot accept that what some teens need is a large dose of discipline and control to grow up.  When your son starts carrying a gun and selling drugs, better send him to Thayer than read about him in the local paper (or see him on national TV).



Cptnemo"

You bought it all, didn't you?  :cry:

If it's worth it to you to expose you child to cult tactics, abuse, and deny him free will and identity then it is you I feel pity for, and him I feel saddened for. He will question what happened to him later on in life, so don't be surprised, and be ready to apologize.

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks <--- Good music for the background. Good link anyway.

OUT OF THE SIXTIES
By: Lon Woodbury

Those of us old enough to remember the 1960s will recall a decade of tremendous change, creativity and turmoil. It was a turning point decade, a time when many of the old attitudes were cast off and new directions taken. At least one national social critic has asserted that when you look at the things going wrong in this country today, they all came out of the 1960s. On the other hand, many of our most respected contemporary values were products of the 1960s.

In education and personal growth, a tremendous amount of creativity and new thinking began during the 1960s. Traditional public and private education thinking was widely challenged. The traditional interventions for emotional and behavioral problems of juvenile detention or hospitalization were criticized as harmful all too often.

Storefront schools and other experimental and experiential forms of education flourished, as they tried to break away from the traditional model of education founded on the concept of the factory in the early years of the 20th century. In personal growth, we saw est, lifespring, synanon, a variety of eastern mystic ideas brought to this country, and a host of other movements with new visions of how to increase human potential. In addition, the concept of individual therapy provided by credentialed therapists, rooted in at least the trappings of science and credentials, finally became accepted legally and culturally. This was marked by the legal acceptance of alcoholism as a disease in 1962, rather than the old view of it being only a moral problem. The 1960s was a cornucopia of new ideas and experimentation, starting a process of developing, interacting, and evolving to find better ways to educate and help young people.

The network of emotional growth/therapeutic schools and programs this newsletter focuses on evolved directly out of the experimentation going on in the 1960s. Part of this experimentation was to establish schools for at-risk adolescents as private alternatives, with parental choice driving enrollment decisions. These influences are still evident, it is these roots in the experimentation of the sixties that make this network unique from other education and mental health associations and networks. Many of the people and schools who started working with struggling teens during the creativity of the 1960s, are still around.

Larry Dean Olson, founder of Anasazi Foundation, discovered that students at Brigham Young University did better academically after going on one of his wilderness experiences in the late sixties, and Larry Wells, Founder of Wilderness Quest, found that taking young Idaho prisoners into the wilderness in the early 1970s reduced recidivism rates drastically. In addition, many of the programs in Montana were founded by people who had worked at, or been inspired by, Spring Creek Community School, a backwoods alternative school founded by Steve Cawdry in the late sixties or early 70s. Cawdry closed the school down several years ago, but its influence remains.

The late Mel Wasserman founded the CEDU School in 1967, and CEDU probably had the most widespread influence on this network. Originally, Wasserman saw how many of the young people he met around his hometown of Palm Springs, California in the mid-sixties were living in total chaos. They had real problems with drugs, relationships and parents, and from the standard institutions and interventions of the time, there was nothing available to effectively help them. He decided to go into the school business. He founded CEDU specifically as an alternative school, designed to provide what these confused young people desperately needed. His genius was in selecting from the currents of experimentation floating around the sixties, those elements that created a whole child education system by addressing their physical, mental and emotional growth. The term Emotional Growth education came out of the CEDU approach. CEDU became extremely successful in helping young people as an alternative to therapeutic institutions. CEDU expanded to establish several north Idaho schools by the 1990s and added the two schools currently in California. More importantly, many people who worked at CEDU left to establish their own schools, or took key positions in other schools, adding their own personal ideas to what they had learned at CEDU. A significant number of the schools in the Emotional Growth/Therapeutic schools and programs network were developed or strongly influenced by people who were originally inspired by their CEDU experience.

Another early school was Elan, in Poland Springs, Maine. Established in 1970, Elan was strongly influenced by the behavioral concepts prevalent at the time, developing into an extremely tightly structured behavioral modification school. Although Elan itself has not grown to beyond the one school, I have met several people elsewhere in the Northeast who had once worked at Elan. It seems Elan?s approach differed from the norm, and it opened people up to the idea that there were ways beyond the traditional to construct a school or program for struggling teens, and they proceeded to act on that insight.

Provo Canyon School, in Provo Utah, was founded in 1971. Although a secure treatment center, they employed several new ideas, including thinking of themselves as a school, and referring to their residents as students instead of patients. Today, there are many schools and programs in Utah that were either founded by people who had once worked for Provo Canyon School, or learned the business from an ex-employee of Provo Canyon School.

Other important influences were Campbell Loughmiller, and his book Wilderness Road, published 1965, from his work with the Salesmanship Club near Dallas. This book, and the Salesmanship Club, found a kid?s behavior gets better after camping out. Primarily influential in the Southeast, this concept of long term camping inspired the Three Springs programs and the Eckerd Programs, along with a number of other smaller programs.

So, what's my point? First, if you start tracing the history of influences on many of the schools in the network of Emotional Growth/ Therapeutic schools and programs, you usually wind up back to just a handful of early founders. Also, much of what is most successful and creative in the schools and programs in this network came directly out of the creative thinking and experimenting that occurred in the 1960s.

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... s0404.html

So, let's see... I've been through EST training, The Salemanship Club, and Straight Inc. No wonder at the age of 18 when I did regression 'therapy' at a 12 step lock down facility after Straight, I went temporarily completely self-detached. I literally had a (not fun) outer body experience. I utterly disconnected, but I still remember it, I just didn't recognize my own reflection in the mirror, and it scared the hell out of me. It took them an hour or so to snap me out of it.