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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Question for Ginger
« on: December 16, 2004, 04:33:00 PM »
Someone is using my username and avatar to make posts besides myself.  Is this allowed?  Two posts just showed up under my name that I did not make.  

That it is wrong for a man to say he is certain of the objective truth of a proposition unless he can provide evidence which logically justifies that certainty. This is what agnosticism asserts and in my opinion, is all that is essential to agnosticism.
--Thomas Henry Huxley, English biologist


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Reality according to mother
« on: December 02, 2004, 02:03:00 PM »
I am curious if anyone else suffers from this parental woe.

My mother, over the years has developed a completely altered version of the past, present and possible future.  For lack of a better term, she makes alot of shit up.  I dont mean she lies per say, she truly beleives the things she talks about.  However, she rewrites history quite frequently.  

She tells me stories about my childhood to me that I know never happened.  Or she skews the events so badly that I have to correct her repeatedly.  She forgets constantly, and if you call her out in any conversation...she will proceed to completely re-route her story to fit yours.  That way I guess she thinks she can never actually be wrong.  Example:

I will tell her my opinion of something, she then tells me hers, I tell her I disagree with her, she then tries to convince me that what she meant was really exactly what I was saying.  She makes comments about things she remembers seeing a long time ago, that werent in existence.  She told me the other day she remebered when the house on the corner was being built.  Nevermind she didnt even live in this city when it was built, nor was I born yet.  But if you tell her she is wrong, she wont beleive you.  She tried to explain to me the other day why certain areas of town were being worked on and others not, talking about all kinds of construction and so forth.  SHE DOESNT EVEN LIVE HERE.  How the hell would she know.  I guess I can just tell when she is making shit up.  This coming from someone who cant even remember to get her keys out of the car before she locks it, at least twice a week.

 All this along with the excuse that every bad decision she ever made is because either 1) No one told her differently and 2)Someone told her differently and is subsequently responsible for leading her astray.  Namely my father and stepfather.

There isnt one area of town she wasnt " looking to buy or invest in, but your DAD wouldnt let me, I would be a millionaire by now blah blah".  The worst is, when I talk to her about how things were for me when she was fucking up my life as a child....she actually rants on about how much she agrees with me, as if she werent a hair responsible for any one it.  I called her out the other day on that.  She kept talking about how she would yell at my stepfather about how bad he was and how their whole relationship was messed up, how she told him she was leaving him and so on.  I had to remind her that she NEVER ACTUALLY DID.  She shut up and acted all hurt.  

Anyone else observe this phenomenon in the family?

For the most part we inherit our opinions. We are the heirs of habits and mental customs. Our beliefs, like the fashion of our garments, depend on where we were born. We are molded and fashioned by our surroundings.
--Environment is a sculptor -- a painter.


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Intakes and Birthdays
« on: October 16, 2004, 12:00:00 PM »
I was just reading the latest posts, and it occured to me that many of us seemed to have been shanghaied into the program on or around our birthdays.  

I wonder if this pattern has a cause?

I was put in the day after my birthday.  

Who else?

We need cops.

We can't live without 'em.

But they need to start working for us....

That's no longer an option.

They've pushed it.

They've gone to far.

They've just gone to far.
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/rb.htm' target='_new'>Tom Crosslin


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Donation Info
« on: September 21, 2004, 10:41:00 PM »
Would someone please post info on sending donations for either Bradbury or any general protest efforts etc.

Thanks

What kind of humanism expresses its reluctance to sacrifice military casualties by devastating the civilian economy of its adversary for decades to come?  
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684855674/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'> Henry Kissinger


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 15, there's still time for you.....
« on: August 17, 2004, 11:25:00 PM »
I'm 15 for a moment
Caught in between 10 and 20
And I'm just dreaming
Counting the ways to where you are
I'm 22 for a moment
She feels better than ever
And we're on fire
Making our way back from Mars
15 there's still time for you
Time to buy and time to lose
15, there's never a wish better than this
When you only got 100 years to live
I'm 33 for a moment
Still the man, but you see I'm of age
A kid on the way
A family on my mind
I'm 45 for a moment
The sea is high
And I'm heading into a crisis
Chasing the years of my life
15 there's still time for you
Time to buy, Time to lose yourself
Within a morning star
15 I'm all right with you
15, there's never a wish better than this
When you only got 100 years to live
Half time goes by
Suddenly you're wise
Another blink of an eye
67 is gone
The sun is getting high
We're moving on...
I'm 99 for a moment
Dying for just another moment
And I'm just dreaming
Counting the ways to where you are
15 there's still time for you
22 I feel her too
33 you're on your way
Every day's a new day...
15 there's still time for you
Time to buy and time to choose
Hey 15, there's never a wish better than this
When you only got 100 years to live

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin


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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Pay attention
« on: April 10, 2004, 12:02:00 PM »
Hey you all,

Just wanted to give you all a tip.  If you just sit back and pay attention to the posts and their structure...you can more often than not discover who is whom and which Anons are most closely tied to user names.

Just watching their spelling and usage will give away who they really are.  You dont have to be a super hacker in order to figure it out.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Sage Advice
« on: March 13, 2004, 01:47:00 AM »
In the words of an old poster...."fuck em all and feed em beans..."

I need some asprin...apple pucker anyone?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Ghost Post
« on: February 24, 2004, 02:04:00 PM »
I guess someone deleted the post on the whole Jesus issue....very interesting.  Maybe we should be tossing the ones about rape, sex and shitting down peoples throats too?

No, that would be censorship.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / allright..so crucify me for this one...
« on: February 17, 2004, 02:28:00 PM »
Hey all--

Just a little bit of opinion and maybe a tad of advice thrown in.  I am not trying to censor or downplay anyones feelings or opinions....let me repeat that I AM NOT TRYING TO CENSOR OR DOWNPLAY ANYONES FEELINGS OR OPINIONS.....got it?  Gotta make sure........BUT...

This board is a voice for Survivors, not only to each other, but to those  who want to better understand our plight.  Posting about fucking so and so...and generally off topic rambling can look a bit shady to those not so clear on exactly what or who we are, and why we all post here.

Let me say that rather than look at this as being censored by others (namely me in this post) look at it as an attempt to censor yourself in the name of the cause.  

When someone who is influential or otherwise a possible supporter for our cause logs onto this forum, the last thing they are going to want to get involved with is a bunch of backwater trashtalking and incoherent rambling.  We need to take it upon ourselves to step up and give an appreance of people who arent totally messed up, not so much in that we cant even support a coherent discussion forum anyway. Given all the attention that we potentially may garner.

Now is the time when our "cause" is on the verge of taking off, and I would think that although we have many feelings of hatred, resentment, and anger still about our treatment in the past....we can possibly better channel it into something useful, by our own volition.  Do you get me?  My suggestion is reserve the more heavy stuff for a private messaging partner...or invite someone in on a private chat.  There is no reason why the anger shouldnt be voiced you guys....but if anyone is ever going to take this thing seriously...the least we could do is reign ourselves in a bit and give those fighting on the frontlines that much more help in not having to sift out the insanity and present us to the world.

This is just a thought you all, im not trying to put anyone down...we just have to think bigger than whats been posted around here lately.

I am open to response on this...its just my viewpoint.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / thread of insanity
« on: December 09, 2003, 08:02:00 PM »
Hey there all...its been quite a hectic week here at the Fornits..no?

I'd like to start this thread specifically for people to use as a place to curse, belittle and degrade each other without the hindrance of an actual meaningful topic.

Saying asshole, dickhead, and jerk-off is so much more profound...not to mention effective in communication.  And it carries us all SO very far!

"Hey there you cocksucking son -of-a-whore!"

Yes, yes...that feels better...and it should.  So lets hear it people...let it all hang out....lets keep it out of the rest of the forum though...whaddaya say...dickheads!  YEAH YEAH YEAH ::bangin::  ::bangin::  ::argue::  ::argue::

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Check this out!
« on: August 06, 2003, 03:48:00 PM »
You want to know where Satan is?

Drive by the White House some time.  Whats with this drive to fuck peoples minds?

http://slate.msn.com/id/2086617/

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Does this sound familiar?
« on: June 27, 2003, 10:42:00 AM »
This story really creeped me out.  Check it....

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/134372

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Im sorry
« on: April 28, 2003, 10:59:00 AM »
just wanted to let everyone know, I apologize for all of whtas been going on here lately.  Its all very petty, and I find it to be especially so now.

I lost my 5 year old daughter and my husband lost his mother and Aunt in a car accident yesterday afternoon.  Please, everyone say a prayer for them for me.....it would mean a great deal.

Carmel

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / OT....Happy Easter!
« on: April 18, 2003, 11:56:00 AM »
Just wishing everyone a Happy Easter holiday....

I am tormented each year by the fact that, although Marshmallow Peeps and their progeny LOOK like the tastiest things on earth.......no matter how many times I try to eat one, it still tastes like total crap.

Have a great weekend!

 ::bigsmilebounce::

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Im outta here
« on: March 05, 2003, 10:00:00 AM »
Ive been coming here for quite some time now, and I like to think I have made an effort to be fair with people when posting or at least remain open to their views.  But this place has crossed the line for me and become no better than the program itself.  

NOTE TO ALL: This is NOT a generalization.  There are many people who are great to correspond with and are not Nazi's when it comes to others disagreeing with their posting.  So anyone thinking about correcting me on a generalization, please dont.

Foremost, I think the program was terrible, I think it was sick and wrong and a dispicable situation that we were all subjected to.  So dont think that because I sometimes agree that "letting go" or "getting over it" means that I dont support survivors or THE MOVMENT.  However, I do believe that on a persoanl level we must all begin moving on at some point.  We are are ultimately responsible for our own lives, and yes, even when things like the program are forced upon us, it is our responsibility to ourselves to heal and move on and make the remainder of our existence that much more worthwhile.  Blaming is selfish and unproductive.  Pursuing our tormentors is honorable and part of the process, but once they are caught, which I am confident they will be, alot of people are going to be dissapointed when they are still unhappy, and still have their own issues and demons to contend with.  We cant rely on a vengeful attitude alone to help enrich and heal our lives.  And this board is not the definantive answer to getting support.  Anyone who places that expectation on it may end up in a worse postion than when they started.

That all being said, I am choosing to not post here any longer.  I may be completely wrong in my opinion of how this place has changed, but I do know that it is unproductive and unhelpful to me personally.  I find myself increasingly angered by what I read, so I would rather make the choice not to participate.

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