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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / split off
« on: June 21, 2005, 11:12:00 PM »
Ah, yes the ?no days off when the group was in a bad place? technique ?I remember it well.  In hindsight it seems to imply that it was the 4th and 5th phaser?s fault and having them in group was going to make everything better.  So, why was the group is such a bad place to begin with?   Hmmm?let me think?could it be that the staff was not doing their job?!  And where was staff when 4th and 5th phaser?s were in group?  Enjoying their days off?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 5th Phase Obs Notebooks
« on: October 26, 2004, 12:13:00 PM »
Anyone remember these?  The chance for 5th phasers to apply their awareness to the group to determine who wasn't doing well, who looked guilty, who was a candidate for splitting...

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / sqwawking (talking behind backs)
« on: October 26, 2004, 12:03:00 PM »
Withdraw,

I hope the fear stops for you and that you find some peace.  Your post does make me wonder-- whatever happened to the client files.  Who has them?  Anybody know?  I'd be interested to see exactly what is in there.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / sqwawking (talking behind backs)
« on: October 26, 2004, 08:55:00 AM »
85DJ I?m with you on this one.  I have posted several names on this site hoping to hear that they are okay and doing well.  Then there are other names I?ve posted hoping to hear they are rotting somewhere, e.g. Miller Newton and William Rollins.  The tenet I have followed when it comes to posting names is this- I shouldn?t post other names unless I am willing to put my name out there and I have- George Duncan, St Pete & Atlanta ?80-?82.  

Also, I agree with Sophie?s remark, ?Not all staff members were demon spawn??  Dave McAdams is a good example. He didn?t have the staff mind fuck like the others.  He was (and hope he still is) a compassionate person and I hope he is doing well.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Hi again from Fred Collins
« on: October 26, 2004, 08:26:00 AM »
Hi Fred,

Your name sounds familiar and I think I remember you- tall, black hair and tan complexion?  Were you in St Pete around '80-'81?  I have a son named Josh and he'll be 8 in March.  I remember those sleep deprived nights and I would always  tell myself, "It's just a phase, this won't last forever, I'll eventually get to sleep..."

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / St.Pete straight 1979
« on: October 26, 2004, 08:08:00 AM »
Hi Margaret,

Welcome to the board.  I was in St Pete '80-'81 before shipping off to Atlanta when the program branched out.  Your name sounds kind of familiar and I think you were on a higher phase when I began my unfortunate incarceration.  It's amazing some of the things you'll remember when you start reading some of the posts.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Dave McAdams
« on: July 03, 2004, 08:42:00 PM »
I remember Dave when he was on staff in St Pete in '80 & '81.  It appeared to me that he didn't have that staff mind-fuck like the others.  I rememeber he was empathetic and fair with me when others weren't.  I hope he is doing well.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I dream about straight
« on: July 03, 2004, 08:33:00 PM »
The occasional dream pops up and it's the same one- I'm still on first phase trying to go home or fifth phase trying to graduate.  I feel helpless in the dream because I've been on the phase for 24 years (that's how long ago I was admitted) and I keep wondering what do I have to do to move on...It's always a relief to wake up and realize that I have moved on.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Staff
« on: March 08, 2004, 08:42:00 PM »
I guess a staff member coming from front row to the front of the group was supposed to have a positive impact on us.  I believe the philosophy at the time was ?peer-to-peer counseling? and the thinking was who else could understand a druggie better than another druggie.  Were we supposed to put peer counselors on a pedestal and revere them as counseling gods and goddesses?  I remember when I was at the Austell Road location Straight got some sort of accreditation, which I believe meant the program met certain medical standards and that licensed, educated & trained therapists were going to be running the show.  Now, I wonder, was Straight more fucked up when peer counselors were at the helm or when these so-called professionals came in?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / weird daydream
« on: February 11, 2004, 08:31:00 PM »
Reading the posts about p'nut butter reminded me of the dreaded "swimmers" served in the Morgan Yacht Building.  They were frozen PBJ sandwiches served on open meeting nights and they were NASTY! ::puke::

One recurring daydream involved palmetto bushes.  I remember when the program moved to Frontage Rd off Gandy the building was surrounded by palmetto bushes and there were days when the doors were opened in an attempt to cool us off but all it did was blow around hot air.  Anyway, I remember sitting there, looking out upon that vast seas of bushes and wondered where they would lead if I split.  My dream was that they would lead me to the beach then I could make my way up the gulf coast.  

Another daydream involved certain staff members- their arrogance was disgusting!  I would sit in my seat and listen to them lead a rap and imagined how good it would feel to beat the arrogant crap out of them.  Oh, I really loved those daydreams.

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Therion, you asked, "Do any of you guys think maybe Straight should have been for our parents?"  

That's a good one!  My dad would have never survived.  He would have been the phaser always in a "pity party" (Can't remember the last time I said that) and always getting confronted.  I can just hear him saying, "I chose not to accept what you are saying to me." ::noway::   He probably would have been started over several times.

Back in the early '80's there was a little saying among the parents when they asked each other how they were doing- they would say, "Oh, I'm somewhere in between compliance and defiance..."  Of course, this was never said around staff for fear of being confronted in a parents rap for not "working their program" (Haven't said that in awhile either).  

I bet most parents leaned more towards defiance and I'm sure many felt resentment towards us because WE put the family in Straight due to our drug use.  Well, Mom and Dad, I DID NOT choose to go to Straight.  YOU made that choice when YOU lied to get me there!  

Oh, I almost forgot- Dad you're started over for breaking the first AND most important rule and I want you to write a searching and fearless moral inventory about it...::deal:: HA,HA,HA, HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA...

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / RSC
« on: December 04, 2003, 11:36:00 PM »
Yes, I remember.  This is what I had to say about it in a post dated 6-24-03:

RSC: Rational Self Counseling or Rationalized Straight Crap?

I was going through some files the other day and came across the RBT Self Acceptance Script we were given in the early ?80?s when we started the RSC sessions. It?s interesting to read after all these years.

The opening line, ?I am a person with human dignity?. What a novel concept. It?s a shame that Straight forgot this notion.

Or how about this, ?Many times things happen that I don?t like. I will accept this by remembering that I can not control everything.? Well, this wasn?t exactly comforting when I was put on a third phase refresher for things I did not do.

Who can forget this, ??I can calmly remember that I have a choice.? Let?s be honest, did we really have choices?

And my personal favorite, ?Sometimes I make mistakes; this doesn?t mean I?m bad or wrong?No one knows everything.? How many times did egomaniacal staffers who thought they knew it all berate us for mistakes we made? Oh my God, Straight was cultivating mini Millers! I have this Austin Powersesque vision of Miller Newton- he?s sitting at his desk, he?s diabolically plotting and planning and he has a demented vision of what therapy should be and he says, ?I will call them mini me??

So, what did I learn from RSC? How to rationalize some of my irrational behavior. Well, I could go on, but I won?t. So, here it is in its entirety:

RBT Self Acceptance Script

I am a person with human dignity. What I do does not change me. Sometimes I make mistakes, and sometimes I do things very well, but I?m the same person.

I will continue to make some mistakes throughout my life because I?m not perfect: I am a fallible human being. However, because I?m a person, I also have the ability to learn. I can work on mistakes and learn to do what is necessary to change them. I can strive to ?do? better; I can not ?be? better. I already am a human being.

Past is in the past. I cannot change that. I regret some things I?ve done. I don?t like some things that have happened but I can?t change the past by staying upset and worried. I can?t guarantee the future by being worried either. I can change my feelings right now. I?m probably going to handle situations better if I?m calmer and more clearheaded. I am remembering that I am in control of my feelings. I control myself. I can?t always control the situation. Many times things happen that I don?t like. I will accept this by remembering that I can not control everything. If I don?t like it, I can do my best to do something about it, if I want to. If I don?t want to, I can calmly remember that I have a choice.

Other people control their decisions about their behavior. I am not responsible for what other people think, feel or do. I want to do my best to help others but their behavior is in their control. They decide what they do.

I do what I do because I can only act in light of my own experience, my own learning, and my own attitudes. Sometimes I make mistakes; this doesn?t mean I?m bad or wrong. Mistakes mean I don?t know everything. No one knows everything. I am a human being who has the ability to learn from my mistakes.

What people think or do cannot make me less of a person. I am me and no one can change me. I will continue to do things I do and make the mistakes I make until I change. I want to begin to change right now. I am accepting myself by remembering I am a fallible human being, just as good, just as worthwhile as other people.

Sometimes people do what I?m not expecting them to do. Sometimes it seems as if they don?t care. This is my interpretation of their behavior and I could be mistaken. However, even if it were true that some people are inconsiderate of me, and don?t really care about how I feel, I still do not have to get so upset about it.

Other people have a right to do what they do, and to think what they think. They do not have to care about me in order for me to be calm or even happy. Other people?s thought do not control or define my feelings; other people?s actions do not control or define my feelings.

I am a person with human dignity no matter what other people think of me. Even if they don?t think of me the way I would like, I can stand it. I don?t need the approval or caring of others in order to feel good about myself. I am the most important person in my life because I control my life.

I control my thoughts, feelings and behavior. I feel good about the things I do well and regret some things I don?t do well. I accept all those behaviors and myself.

I feel calm about myself; I feel acceptable to myself; I feel good about accepting myself.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / straight movie
« on: September 23, 2003, 08:02:00 AM »
TinaMC- How long were you in the program? I entered in June of '80 and just curious if I would remember you.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / straight movie
« on: September 22, 2003, 09:26:00 AM »
What I remember about watching Midnight Express was the affect it was supposed to have on us.  We were supposed to watch the movie and be appreciative that we were in Straight and not in some Turkish prison.  Afterwards, someone always stood up to share their feelings about being in jail or another rehab, etc.   I called these ?cop out raps? because staff didn?t have to do anything.  All they had to do was ask, ?So how did that make you feel??  They call on some people, a few tears are shed, then they tell us how that could be us if we weren?t in the program and that was the end of rap.

Wasn?t there a scene where the girlfriend came to visit and presses her breast against the glass?  We didn?t see that scene!  It?s probably a good thing we didn?t because there would have been at least a dozen guys who would want to talk about themselves during lunch.  You know?they watched the movie, started having fantasies, did the deed and now they feel guilty.  Of course, contestant #1 stands up and gets ripped to shreds by the group then any guy that thought about wanting to talk quickly changed his mind and went back to eating his crap du jour.  The only other movie I can remember seeing was a Disney movie- The Apple Dumpling Gang.

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Seeing this topic made me remember a couple of people who are no longer with us.

George Cromwell- If I remember correctly he was a Seed graduate when he came back into the program in St Pete, sometime late '80 or early '81.  We were on 4th phase together and he eventually 7-stepped.  I remember hearing that he enlisted in the service and was somewhere in Europe hanging out of a train window and got decapitated when another train came by unexpectedly.

Shannon Zuelke- Came into the program in St Pete in '80, not too long after me.  We 7-stepped the same night in Atlanta.  About 3 years ago she hung herself from a tree with a car safety belt and wasn't found until 2 days later.  She was a mother with a young daughter.

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