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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Any info on Boulder Creek Academy in Bonners Ferry, Idaho?
« on: September 28, 2007, 07:28:35 PM »
Well lets see, it was 3 weeks before I could speak with my mom.  2 months before they let her come visit me, two years until I got to go home

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Any info on Boulder Creek Academy in Bonners Ferry, Idaho?
« on: September 28, 2007, 06:50:33 PM »
Don't get nervous about BCA people reading this.  YOU'RE not the one who sent her away rather, the ONLY one doing the research that says to me "I love my niece".  I honestly believe her parents gave up.  Which is what will hurt later.  My mom told she was saving my life and in MY situation she probably was.  I don't think I would have made it to 15 had I not taken a 'vacation' from the streets.  However, the longer I was there, the more I saw kids come in who 'couldn't make friends easily' or who were 'emotional teenagers'.  OF COURSE they are emotional.  HELLO, HORMONES!   :lol:  

I comend you for speaking up on THIS forum though.  No matter what the opinion is that is being verbalized, it is REAL to that person, their experience and feelings.  So read what people write, take this back to your nieces parents, educate the FUCKIN therapist who apparently doesn't know their job very well!  One person may not change the world, but they may change another person who might!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Did you break?
« on: September 28, 2007, 03:05:09 PM »
Man.  The running your shit thing!  That got to be out of control.  I think I ran (actually by myself) about 6 RAPS right before I left.  The main objective that I followed was that I wouldn't LET people run their shit!  The reason being that I felt like it wasn't much of a tool for anything except to say what was REALLY bothering them while allowing them to put on a 'show' for the staff or the other students.  Now, don't me wrong, people like me actually NEEDED to run theirs once in awhile due to the anger inside of me.  So, it was more of the forum that it should've been from the beginning.  When I facilitated the Truth, the peer group was a little tougher than I had seen in awhile and those kids REALLY were good people.  So, as the 'staff' sat back and figured out which ones we were going to 'go after', I jumped at the opportunity to take on the ones that really needed help, not ridicule.  I still get emails thanking me because they felt that it was the only time they actually got 'real help'.   That was probably the biggest reward I got outta that place.  :)

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Work assignments
« on: September 28, 2007, 02:55:25 PM »
What location was that?  At BCA, they were restrictions too.  Fulltimes, pit, couch, table, blah blah blah

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / You should have her parents read this.....
« on: September 27, 2007, 01:29:02 PM »
what MADE them want to send  your niece there?  I mean was she out of control, did they not know how to handle her adolescence?  I'm not asking these questions to be condescening in the least.  I went to BCA from 96-99.  The things that I was doing, was normal to me, not my mother.  I was involved in a gang, I drank, I skipped school, I fought, I got kicked out of every school in the district within a 3 month timeline.  But it was MY counselor who found BCA and helped her to believe that it was the thing to do.  I DID thank her however, for NOT sending me to Provo Canyon School even after we watched the "video" on it.  

So what IS it?  I mean, there are things that are normal for teenagers to grow through.  It is part of life, growing AND education.  But to just give up and throw them to these schools is what is going to make them worse coming out.  I never snorted more coke in my life than I did when I came out.  Simply for the fact that I couldn't keep friends in the real world seeing as how I was TAUGHT and TRAINED to speak "deeply, and with emotion" with people.  I'm not blaming the school on my going back to drugs and having a heavier problem then when I got sent there, but I DO blame them for making me feel abnormal, weird, sick, demented, and giving me NO transition back into the real world where people simply don't give a damn about your 'feelings' even if they just shot you.

I have a four year old son, who is already growing over 4 feet tall, with size 12 kids shoes and has biceps, triceps, pecs and wing muscles, DEFINED!  I EXPECT him to cause problems, to get in trouble and maybe even occasionaly fight.  I WILL NOT condone him acting out, but we ALL did it as teenagers.  It will continue to the end of time.  The only thing we have ANY control over is HOW they approach situations, view them and either walk away or at least know and CARE ABOUT the consequences from their desicions, good or bad.

I would like to apologize for my tangent ONLY IF someone took offense to this.  But I DO NOT apologize for my opinion.  We, as parents, coming from an alumni of BCA, CEDU, LIFE, need to be MORE involved with our children and not pawn them off on someone else who will 'fix' the children who are not broken to begin with.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: Did you break?
« on: September 24, 2007, 07:04:59 PM »
Quote from: try another castle
Well, we all broke, to some degree or another, but when I mean break I mean really, really break. You bought into the program in its entirety, even if it took them a while to work on you.....

 I mean, when I got my letter on my second week stating that I was graduating (and knowing my mother, I was definitly graduating) so when they told me that if I yelled at the ground then it would make me feel better, I did it!  I didn't do it to get my point across.  I did it because if I didn't, I KNEW I would hole it up and when my mom DID come to see me, I would most assuredly do something that I was raised NEVER to do and probably haul off and beat my mother up.  (Not my idea of a good thing).  I also smooshed on my first night.  NOT by CHOICE!  The girl who moved me in, I think she was bi or something, PULLED me down to the ground.  So from there on out, EVERYONE called me a look good for that bullshit.  What the hell?  Was I supposed to just sit there and start yelling at people?  

But I NEVER believed in the majority of the ideology.  SOME of things that were said DID make sense, but those were few and far between and mostly from staff who actually spent time with me and appreciated my immense struggles through life thus far and who knew what the hell they were doing (as much as they could without being licensed I guess).

I DID believe in the promise they made me.  Ya know, the "if you go along with the program, you will leave a better person" promise.  The same one that they laid on my mom so tough that she in turn was pushing that on me.  I knew that once I got home after a THREE YEAR tour, and my mom told me she wasted all that money simply because I wanted freedom as an 18 year old and opposed college, the gig was up.  I would NEVER be that good person they promised and especially in my mother's eyes.  For one who seemed to 'waste money' that she got from mortgaging her house three times and was STILL on the scholarship to help pay for part, THATS when I felt broken, FUBAR, and severly discouraged about the years wasted to make me the daughter I had never been seen as.

So yes I broke,  for good reasons but breaking is breaking!  I ran the raps towards the end of my stay, even co-facilitated in some prophets.  I felt for the people that I was affecting by this though were in better hands than I was.  I came from a different place than the people being "paid to do these things" so that was my reward for 'breaking'.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Work Assignments
« on: September 24, 2007, 06:44:49 PM »
AHHHH Work Assignments.  I actually excelled TOO much on work assignments is what I was told.  Same with the writing assignments for restrictions.  I remember one restriction, I was told I could not do work assignments, limited writing assignments and no classes of ANY sort.  I also had to eat at this little table that was right by the bridge window in the dining room (BCA).  I think that was the HARDEST time I EVER had in that damn place.  I think I lost some brain cells just fuckin steamin over the fact that I just SAT there.  I couldn't grasp the importance of it.  They said it wasn't so I just skimmed through the restriction because seeing as how I was one of the top two strongest people in the school, work assignments weren't much punishment for me.  I think the REAL reason why they did that was because I was taking over OTHER people's assignments and they couldn't come up with enough DUMB ASS analogies to keep me busy!  

The compost pile? I think I had that turned over completely in less than half a day!  LMAO!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Lauren Luther
« on: December 18, 2006, 01:46:10 PM »
I heard Boise overdosed on something.  Lauren's on here but not much anymore.  As for the rest I don't know Berkman!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Peer goup 6
« on: December 18, 2006, 01:44:52 PM »
Holy shit Clark!  Look at your pms and holla!  Email me at [email protected] for a faster response.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Found some ex staff...see if you recognize
« on: March 24, 2006, 01:01:00 PM »
WTF is Monarch and how did Ariel, Steve and Jane all wind up THERE?!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / old BCA drama
« on: March 17, 2006, 02:24:00 PM »
DAYUM!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / old BCA drama
« on: March 10, 2006, 02:10:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-08 10:49:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-03-07 14:49:00, dniceo7 wrote:



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On 2005-12-09 09:40:00, If u want to know..then ask wrote:




"I guess so!  McEllin?  Anyone?  Anyone?  McEllin?"










Man where the FUCK is McEllin??"




good question... some people want to disapear after cedu because of all the shitty memories. canyou blame them?"




Yeah, except McEllin is basically my next door neighbor. He didn't just disappear from CEDU, mofo disappeared altogether. None of his old buddies from back home know what the fuck happened to him.



But no, I can't blame them.  



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Man, u tellen me you can't even see dude on the streets no more.  What happened to my bro?!  Now I'm worried!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Nick Niemeyer
« on: January 10, 2006, 03:26:00 PM »
Or PM me the number and I will call.  Ain't scared!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / fat fuck
« on: December 14, 2005, 06:21:00 PM »
Damn!

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Disclosure
« on: December 10, 2005, 11:31:00 PM »
The "Chrome Ball" came about in the Truth propheet.  IT symbolized how we were brought into this world as "clean and shiny...like a chrome ball".  Then we do all the bad shit that we do and it starts blackening up your "chrome ball".  You were supposed to start to see your "chrome ball" polish up again whenever you "got honest"  (basically said your disclosures).  That's all I remember about it.

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