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On 2005-11-23 18:07:00, Anonymous wrote:




Do you ever wonder what your life would be like if you hadn't faked it? You even admitted that you weren't ready to leave (face life) quite so fast, so you see, it was you that created the place you are in right now.  Have you ever thought of going to the adult seminars and starting over, except this time be real with yourself and not fake your way in life for someone else's benefit.  Do it for yourself this time.  "

Damn!  Do you even hear yourself??  This kid is talking about all the damage that was done in there, all the self doubt that was created and you come back with typical 'program-speak'.  "You didn't really apply your program."  Got news for ya darlin' the program is FUCKED from the beginning.  How can people think they can take these kids and turn them into stepcrafting, good little republican robots??

The inspiration of the Bible depends on the ignorance of the person who reads it.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time.  I've been there a few times myself.  don't know who long you'v been "out", but once you really begin to realize what happened to you sometimes the pain and anger get overwhelming.  All I can say is it does pass.  Dont' get me wrong, it comes back again but it seems like its a little easier to deal with each time.  

When I get really bad like that I put in my fav. cd and go for  walk on the beach.  Sound cliche, but more than half the time it settles me enough to start again.

It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion.

--Joseph Goebbels

I fucking HATE it.  I never really had it as badly as I have since getting out of there.  My poor kids, they could never sneak out without me waking up thnking a Goddamn n/c was trying to get out.  Once they explained to me where they wer going, I was fine with it.

Anyone else have insomnia?

I don't believe in God. My god is patriotism. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
--Andrew Carnegie, Scottish-born American industrialist and philanthropist

I agree.  Read up o it.  What an utter and complete disgrace!!

http://www.csdp.org/news/news/tulia.htm

http://www.drugpolicy.org/law/police/tulia/index.cfm
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0131,g ... 856,1.html

When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.
-- Gary Lloyd

On 2005-11-18 17:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

 Jay Mathews whitewashed the story. He congratulated a child abuser not once, but twice.

That may be true but that doesn't seem to be your true beef here.  Once again, it's the Straight spies on here.

It ain't a fucking come down rap to call a child abuse apologist a child abuse apologist.

It is when you refuse time and time again to provide any kind of proof of this.

You got people willing to actually make phone calls and write letters and dig up information, leave them alone.

Yeah, and most of them are the people that you contiually slam.

Don't hate the media. Become the media

--Jello Biafra

On 2005-11-17 20:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

"How do you really know what the fuck happened at Straight?!?

because I was there.  I saw Newt personally abuse kids and I saw staff (both exec adn Jr. adn Sr. abuse kids at his direction)

You got people like Richard Bradbury and Wes Fager who won't give out how they get their fucking information and they are loathe to offer community property. If they really and truly have old documents that are available, those should be made available to every survivor.

Well, nowadays it's getting more and more difficult to tell the difference between a survivor and someone else (namely b/c of you and about 1 or 2 others like you).  I don't blame him for not giving them out.  The may very well be the Ace up his sleeve.

I for one couldn't give a shit about an old crony like Fager, now could I care less about a hack like Bberry other than if they have documents that are the rightful property of the people they claim to be 'fighting for'.

Well, then quitcher bitching about it.

I originally asked them nicely to see about giving me some of the applications and documents that hold people accountable for their deeds at Straight and those two pieces of shit asked me for money strate up! Same goes with Marti Heath that old pedophilic bag....

These people have spent their own time and money to gather this info.  Some have had financial harships b/c of it.  I don't see a real problem with charging a nominal fee.

and even if you do have money there is no guarantee they'll give you what is asked for.

Where are you getting this from?  Any sources who have asked for things, paid for them and not received them?

I'm telling you these people are liars and they are Pro Straight.

 

AGAIN.....PLEASE name just ONE thing I've done or said that could be construed as 'pro-Straight'...or anything that i've lied about for that matter.  PLEASE!!!  You keep saying I'm a liar, pedophile, Semblerite etc.  PLEASE, PLEASE give details.  I'd LOVE to hear them just for shits and giggles.
 
 

You'll know the ones who will now say, directly after this post, slanderous comments and not even pay attention to what is really being said in truth

I thikn I've been fairly polite in this post to you.  You make take issue with the fact that I'm challenging you to come up with anything to backup your claims, but that's your problem, not mine.

they'll deny it by their falseness and fallacies. Watch them come now. Those who are liars here will now deny the truth by attacking the original postor, so let's have it liars. Come on pussy, let's see those lies. Let's see those fallacies and lies.

 Jeebus this gets tiring.  See my above response.  Prove what I've lied about or that I've 'worked' for the Semblers.
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So stop by anytime to my hood, I got a old crowbar for yer fuckin child abusin asses! You can have your money when you come over.

Just give me the address, I'll be there.  You can even PM me if you don't want it put out here.

Watch these pussies deny they charge money for documents that don't exist. That's right, fuck you Marti Heath you pedophile,

Again, prove it.  I can say pretty much anything I want about people but if I don'thave the facts to back it up, i wouldn't be taken very seriouly.

That's right bitch, I said crowbar and I called YOU a pedophile. There's not a Fucking thing you can do about it either - except whine some more and keep on lieing and eventually die

Is that a threat or are you just talking out your ass again?

When Michael Sherman was asked why he lied about Morgan, Collin, and Gilbert being able to fully get around all statute of limitations - his only reply was "That's what I was told". He was then asked who told him that to which he replied that it was not the attorneys but he could not tell me 'whom' it was.

So call them yourself and ask.  That's the same answer that I got.  Statute of limitations and MGC is NOT known for digging and fighting for what's right.  It costs them to much money.  They're too busy hawking their ambulance/hospital/nursing home business, which incidentally is quite lucrative so why would a lawfirm like that[/b] be so inclined to take on a a pro-bono case that  is going to involve an incredible amount of research when they could be using that time creating billable hours?

You would believe people who all tell the same formatted and memorized stories about rape, all their brother's heads being put through walls on or around the same dates, and more lies about child abuse that can IN NO WAY be verified except by those .....

lemme fix that for ya "except for those that were there when that shit happened?"

Or do you believe what your gut has been telling you since you've been coming here - these people are liars and they advocate child abuse and that these people are still brainwashed and in denial and approve of lieing for the cause of pedophilia?

OK, once AGAIN.   When did I lie and where in the hell do you get that I advocate child abuse.  Pedophilia???  That's a serious charge.  Care to explain that one too?  Doubt it, you'll just keep sshouting from the hilltops "they're child abusers.  I have no proof, but trust me they are".  Come up with some evidence and people might begin to take you a little more seriously.

Go ahead and edit this post, Ginger Warbis, you're a pedophile too you story-changing red necked bare foot mountain climbing hee haw looking corn pone biatch who can't decide whether or not she was in Straight Inc. When you do edit this post you are doing it because you are a pedophile and you are still in denial and you are still cult-brainwashed. Edit now. Or not, child fucker that you are.

Wow.  You're definition and Webster's of a pedophile is very, very different.

Webster's: "Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object.

Yours:  When you do edit this post you are doing it because you are a pedophile.

Editing post (which she never does) is now considered pedophilia???  Watch out all forums, the sex police are coming to get you.  :eek:  :lol:

As for the rest of you pedophiles that come here, well more power to you. Your day is coming soon, too. So keep posting your lies, your dreams of a mad world gone pedophile and get back to me here real soon. I know you will. In the meantime, I welcome you to report this to the authorities, your family members, and bring out the medcart and the rest of your lies and slander. That's what pedophiles and liars do; deny."

Damn. You really need to brush up on your vocabulary skills.  Might I suggest starting here: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pedophilia

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. For when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.


--Nietzsche

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St. Pete Straight
early 80s

On 2005-11-19 07:43:00, Anonymous wrote:


All I can say is Wow. A child abuser real hard at work defending herself right there. Good job on the denial."

Again with the Stepcraft speak.  Anyone who defends themselves in "in denial".  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Busy, curious, thirsty fly, Drink with me, and drink as I.
-- William Oldys (1696-1761): On a Fly drinking out of a Cup of Ale.

ANd once again you make accusations with NOTHING to back it up.  come on,here's your chance Big Boy!   Show everyone what I liar I am and how I secretly work for the Semblers.

How many times do I have to ask this in order for you to answer?

Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits.
--Dan Barker, author and former evangelist