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I respectfully request that a new forum be created for former students of the Hyde Schools of Character Education (TM). There's a campus in Maine and in Connecticut. There are widespread abuses going on there. Not nearly as fucking bad as Straight or CEDU, but take either of those programs, and water them down a bit, and you get Hyde. It's all from the same bad shit. If you were to create the forum, I would do what I could to get conversation going about various topics, having spent a good deal of time at the school myself and seen a lot of shit. Thank you. And by the way, Ginger, you truly are an angel, watching over all of us. Also, could anybody give me any information about how to sue one of my parents for sending me to CEDU programs?

Much Appreciated,
OD

As far as the connection between Hyde and Redcliff Ascent goes, most likely they are NOT under the same management, however they DO appear to have a very strong business relationship. 90% of people I knew when I was there who came to Hyde from a wilderness/reform/brainwashing camp came there from Redcliff Ascent. Likewise, children who got on 2-4 too much were _always_ sent to Redcliff as a last resort. Usually they would be sent to outpost first, which is within the Hyde business and keeps the money in the same pool, but after outpost they would be sent to Redcliff. I have never been to Outpost, but from what people have told me the 7 day excursion consists of a very heavy exercise regimen, strict discipline, and physical labor. Redcliff, of course, lasts for at least 2 months and is a deathmarch through the Utah desert. Escorts would come to Hyde and surprise the kids, usually while they were being held in Dean's Area, cuff them and haul them off. Speaking of Dean's Area, in order to obtain more confessions, they would put a kid in a classroom with the heater turned all the way up and leave them there at a desk with a sheet of paper and a pencil. They had to write down everything they knew, not only about what "ethics" they had personally broken, but ethics their friends had broken, ethics they have heard secondhand about being broken from other people, and even rumors about ethic breaking. If there were things that the student hadn't written down yet, or even if it was _suspected_ that the kid still had more to spill, the dean or dean assistant would give them back the paper and leave them in the room for a few more hours, or put heavy pressure on them, or use intimidation, until they had extracted what they wanted to see written down. One time I was sent on 2-4 because my SONOFABITCH "friend" Rob Ebling ratted out to Dean's Area that I told him that I knew that Jesse Wang had cigarrettes. This was during a "bust". During a bust sometimes half the fucking school would be on 2-4. I say we get our own forum for Hyde School. This could be very useful in taking down Hyde, as it still exists.

OD

Hyde... the "Cadillac" of turnaround schools. Yeah, they still make students shadow eachother, they still fuck around with people for no good reason and put them on 2-4 for having "bad attitudes" and they still manage to suck the fun out of every human activity under the sun. The academics is still shit, the good teachers leave as soon as they get in the door once they see what's going on in the place; the only teachers that stick around are the people who do it for a fucking paycheck or the ones who are dumb and sadistic enough to "buy in". The place is run like communist Russia, and those who cause too much trouble get sent to "outpost" or Redcliff. I would like to have another forum, one for Hyde. Any takers?

That's definitely a photo of Eric Rosen. That's fucking freaky. How the fuck did I ever get involved in all this? Did he indeed have some kind of association with Newton? I live in St. Petersburg, and I'm not above beating someone with a sock with a brick in it.. :grin:

I really liked that movie a lot. I really, really did. It's strange how different my experience of life has been, how warped, altered, flayed, and perplexed its been since going through those programs. I still have nightmares, many, many nightmares. The fact that CEDU failed in front of the entire world is respite to me, but just a victory and not a resolution. I found someone who loves me, after living 20 years of being a wayward, bleeding and lonely child, someone who comes from a kinder world than i have ever known. Someone who saved my life and gave me the desire to live it again. I had thought my life would end in suicide.

I like you, Roy. I wish I could have a conversation with you.

*OPP

...Really wanted to make a difference... huh...

Well then...

...Eherm...

...Pardon little ol' fucking me...
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 ::boohoo:: ::boohoo:: ::boohoo::


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*rereads your post*

Anything positive?...

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The elipses are so I can calm down, back to the level of meaningful discourse...

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Yes.

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I mean, no. Really, would a jew WANT to say anything POSITIVE about the NAZIS???

I'm sure a LOT of them just wanted to be GOOD GERMANS and REALLY FELT BAD about it when it came to all the INHUMAN ACTS and such...

...maybe you don't consider SYSTEMATIC AND HEARTBREAKING MINDRAPING HEADFUCKING DEFENSELESS _*CHILDREN*_ HEAVY ENOUGH FOR YOU, MR. ASSHOLE! HMM? STICK YOUR FINGER UP YOUR ASS! MAYBE I SHOULD STICK _*MY*_ FINGER UP YOUR ASS, MR. ASSHOLE! MAYBE YOU SHOULD STICK YOUR TONGUE UP YOUR _*FRIEND'S*_ ASS AND MAYBE HE SHOULD SHIT DIARRHEA IN YOUR MOUTH AND ON YOUR FACE, MR. ASSHOLE!!! MAYBE I SHOULD SODOMIZE YOU WITH A CHAINSAW, MR. ASSHOLE!!! MAYBE ALL THE WAY TO THE HILT, MR. ASSHOLE!!!!!

May be.

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Maybe.

Maybe.
Well you see I tried but I just couldn't bring myself down to a level of meaningful discourse and I started talking about chainsaws ripping through his body like he's so much lifeless meat on a meathook in my butcher's shop. But maybe... . . . there's that word again . . . ...I can try again for the sake of opening your eyes.

Yes.


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Well, you see here, you got the self-righteousness bit, right? There you go, you got the whole "help the kids" thing going on, right? These "troubled adolescents", right? What the fuck does "troubled adolescent" mean, huh, right? Well the "adolescent" part of the term appears clear enough, in an obfuscated enough manner, right? I mean, we couldn't say child, right? Or adult for that matter, right? No, we use "adolescent" for a very practical reason: they're our drawing pool to work from. You see, nobody gives a shit about a kid between the ages of 13 and 18. They've got no rights, and when they're "out of line", for whatever purpose, let's go ahead and take a big shit all over them! We're adults! We're overgrown bullies! We'll just say what we're doing is "in their best interest" and "for their own good"! We'll really make a difference, alright, we'll get to fuck little kids in the ass and feel like martyrs for doing so.

God you people make me want to vomit!
I hope when you die, hopefully soon and slowly, you can all relive your lives from the point of view of everyone else you've ever affected. I hope you get to feel first hand the pain you've caused to others, "trying to make a difference," I hope you get to go slowly, case by case, living each person's life you've ruined, and feel their desperation, their psychological wounds, their crippled minds, and the horrible despair that so many endure by nice people like your friend who you want me to say nice things about. You can stick a lit cigar up your ass! I hope you get to feel first hand exactly what terrible cruelty and indifference we've all endured, up to and including your own suicide, like many of us end up as, and then go on to the next person you've tortured when you were alive. That would be the only real justice. Then you would see. Until then, stop walking into this rape shelter and telling the girls they brought it upon themselves, you indecent shithead.

Walking dead.
"I should have been a pair of ragged claws, scuttling across the floors of silent seas."
Living hell.
Trapped within one's own mind.
Demons and monsters.
Bogeymen.
A shadow of one's former self
A shadow amongst the living
What might have
What might have been...
What might have been... great!
Broken toy soldiers
Broken toys
Broken down.
Chasing a distant memory
Something lost
Dead at 14
Chasing, running, backwards and forwards
Chasing around, but nothing is there
It's just another sick joke.
The forgotten.
The blood of the innocent, not of bodies
Souls
Monsters
Ghouls
Ghosts
Lower Astral
Decrepyt Decay
And too dark to see

OPP

I really liked that quote, Antigen

O-P-P

(Yeah, you know me...)