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1) Okay if they were "following procedures" that means it is procedure to kick and beat someone who is in a state of collapse - as clearly shown on the recording, is that not an admission that their procedures flount the law?
If a kid needs restraint for his safety or those around him, fair enough, and I am NOT taking the type of restraint that means 10 burly men/women crushing a kid to death

2) I have seen and can provide recordings of police officers who have been fired, suspended whatever for using excessive force which although wrong & totally out of control, has in no way put someone in danger of death, yet they were still punished as they should be.

3) Your law differs to ours I think - from a true case in the UK - a man attacks another man in a road rage incident, attacked man is beaten to an unrecognisable pulp, however it is determined attacked man dies of a heart attack, not the beating, so is it not obvious the deceased had a heart attack because a much younger man was pounding the life out of him? No, the deceased had a heart problem that he could have died from at any given time, so attacker walks free, why does he walk free? because the prosecution didn't look into the possibility of this outcome and went for manslaughter charges, no assault, road rage, battery, intent to harm charges were put in place, therefore he was never tried for them and won't be, so until the next time....  :roll:

A child was on Paxil and Zoloft??

Jesus what sort of quackery is it when they are oput on this stuff

It's widely avoided here due to the fact that so many people either commit suicide or murder when on these drugs, especialy Paxil - I really wonder about some doctors, they're more mental than the kids

Exhausted, your statement makes no sense, whatsoever!

Yer it does

The people who didn't take care of this boy will get away with murder

If they don't get away with it (I.E. someone does something about it) then the facilities will be shut down, that's why they'll get away wth it

That is why these kids are doomed

Sooo are all Aids victims locked up over there? Or are they free to wander around giving it to everyone else

Quote from: ""exhausted""

pfffft, shove ammonia up her nostrils and see how long it takes her to die

after all it's not fucking ILLEGAL is it

Couple of interesting questions this raises:

Say the guards didn't mean to kill the kid.  Say they were not properly trained.  Would the fault then rest primarily on the School then?  Would they then be guilty of a lesser assault charge of some sort rather than murder?  Because somebody is definately responsible for his death...  If I'm not mistaken, woudn't the family still have a good chance at a civil suit against the management at the school?

Psy if you kick and beat aa kid who is obviously unwell to start with, you mean to kill them....especially when you know you're going to get away with it as have many others before in this rotten hellhole dumps

As for your question, yes, to al of it, sue them individualy, sue the program, the school, the state, the giovernment, anyone who actually allows these places to run, sue them (then shove ammonia up their noses)

Looks like the GAO hearing has triggered interest from at least one
 British newspaper:

Don't applaud them yet

I have just this second watched the news and it is reported he died from a 'blood disorder' meh, wankers

Staff in boot camp case walk free  
By Vincent Dowd
BBC News, Washington  


 
Video footage showed Martin Anderson being beaten
Eight defendants have been acquitted of manslaughter in the case of a teenager who died after being punched and kicked at a Florida boot camp.
Martin Lee Anderson, 14, died a day after the beating was administered by guards at the camp in January 2006.

A jury took only 90 minutes to decide the seven instructors and one nurse at the Bay County boot camp in north-west Florida were not guilty of his death.

Video tape shows the teenager being hit and dragged about by the guards.

The video was recorded on the camp surveillance system.

 
 You kill a dog, you go to jail - you kill a little black boy and nothing happens

But giving testimony during the trial, two doctors told the court the death was attributable to an undiagnosed blood disorder which the instructors could not have known about.

The defendants testified they had not attacked Anderson, but had followed the rules of the camp, designed to instil discipline into juveniles sent there.

They said they had suspected Anderson of faking illness to avoid exercise.

Camp closures

Martin Lee Anderson's death has already led to the resignation of the head of Florida's Department of Law Enforcement and all juvenile boot camps in the state have since been closed.

The family are to receive $5m to settle civil claims.

Speaking after the not guilty verdict, the family's lawyer told journalists: "You kill a dog, you go to jail - you kill a little black boy and nothing happens."

Had the all-white jury found the eight defendants guilty, they could have faced up to 30 years in jail.

And you're surprised why?

Makes no odds, they'll get away with it - cos if they don't they'd have to shut down all facilties

Doomed