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This thread is pretty depressing and pathetic.

I could write my family and friends who were not doing drugs with me.

The rule at CCM was that you could only write to your home address and your parents could only write to you.  Communication with other people required your parents to send the letter to you and if you wanted to send a letter to someone, it had to be sent to your parents.

I was on phase 4 before I got unmonitered phone calls. I also got to email my parents.

Those never happened as far as I'm aware.  No e-mail communication and no unmonitored phone calls at any point.  You could have visits with parents however at upper levels.

The reality is the kids that go there are minors. thecnically, all their parents have to do is feed them, clothe them, and give them a sanitary home.

This may depend on the state, but there are more requirements.  Children are entitled to an education and an environment which is emotionally and socially appropriate.

Even though they have the right to call people in jail, they cant call whenever they want. If you are in lockdown, you can call. You have to call when they tell you to. When my husband was in jail for this ridiculous drug charge, he wrote as the main communication, because you had to call collect and he could only call at certain times.

but you could STILL CALL.

If you were on the college program, you went to community college and got to do alot of stuff outside CCM. Ask Perri, she was a college girl.

I was told by staff and the rulebook that conversing with others outside of necessity in the college program was not permitted.  In addition, I believe you were supervised by staff.

No one had a job I dont think. the college program was the only school outside of school at CCM. The school there worked great for me. I had dropped out before going, so I had to make up a semester and do 11th and 12th grade. I made all that up wiht As and Bs and graduated High School 3 days before graduating the program. I liked the self paced thing and people just kept to themselves in school. No one really talked and we just worked on our stuff, which was good for me.

You could not get any score less than a B on a test; I consider the school system there pathetic.  It was impossible to perform poorly thus the grades there indicate nothing.  Self-paced just means reading a textbook and completing tests.

I went to class wiht my group. As I said it wasnt bad. Did you guys go to public school while in the program? I think that is what you are saying. We went on the facility grounds so no one other than the kids in my group went to school wiht me. I didnt work or go to school outside the program while in the program so i cant really answer that last one.

For school, we did not go anywhere.  The teachers simply used the rooms of the facility that were otherwise used for activities or groups.

The CCM that the girls describe earlier in this thread are completely different from the CCM that I recall.

http://sunsetbayacademy.com/history.html

Because no one is going to do it until there is a bigger group of people who have come together to take a stand. Doing something like this alone would be self-sabotage. None of the other grads would forgive us. Not because there is something wrong with them but because they haven't come to terms with it yet. Give it a rest. That would be a positive outcome but it is going to take some time and energy.

Lol, do you guys actually hear yourselves?  I mean, my understand is that your saying Carlbrook is controlling and abusive and uses mind-fuckery.  Do you not realise the unwillingness to speak up and take legal action is what Carlbrook wants, and why they encourage the grads to be so high horse and judgemental, creating a kind of exclusive tight-knit cult of Carlbrook graduates where everyone's afraid to saw an opinion that's too incendiary, enforcing and fueling the cult mentality of falling into other people's acceptance in exchange for your self-respect and justice?

Now, I certainly concur with the point that a court case may not go much of anywhere, but at the same, I'd really recommend you giuys really think about why the hell it's so damn important what some brainwashed folks who've fallen so deep that without question they would ostracise you for failing to fully comply and be brainwashed like them think of you.  I mean, really, let go?

Hey look, it's the August photo of Excellence family at TB.  Thanks for that!  Oh, the memories.

Then later he gets of with paying a fine and becomes a dean of a nearby school.

Isn't life great?

The persons involved in Distant Drums seem to be the same who was involved in Skyline Journey where Ian August died.

We have also found ties to Eagle Quest and Reality Trek.

That does not make any of them a WWASP program. Cross Creek is a huge firm. They have sub-contractors for anything, maybe also for "students" they want to rest from.

In order to make it a wwasp program the same kind of program and seminars have to appear in the wilderness programs. We have not seen any evidence of that yet, but it might be a task for the Fornits posters to digg info up about these three active wilderness programs.

High Impact was pure WWASP, and it did not have any seminars, nor did it have group or anything like that.