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The Troubled Teen Industry / Looking for Ex-Staff Testimony
« on: May 21, 2007, 09:16:58 PM »
1. What program(s) did you work for?

Three Springs,  Morningstar Academy

2. What type of program was it?

Girls Therapeutic outdoor program, Mentally handicapped childrens therapeutic home.

3. How long did you work for each respective program?

3 months and 3 weeks... and approximately 1 month 2 weeks

4. How much were you payed?

21,000 a year -- there was a raise but i forget that figure it was something like 23,700 a year....2,700 raise.

Morningstar-- 10.00 an hour


****Job Description****
Three springs - Counselor I
Morningstar - Paraprofessional (school)

5. Did you ever witness physical abuse?

if restraints were considered physical abuse, then yes.  If "vocational" time (forced yard work) was considered physical abuse then yes

6. Did you ever physically abuse a student?

IF either of those were true, yes

7. Did you ever witness psychological abuse?

at times there were things that could be considered psych abuse

8. Did you ever psychologically abuse a student?

manipulating the student into doing what was required of them by the program- - yes.

9. Were there ever reports of sexual abuse at the facility?

Three Springs - Some.. but not many
Morningstar - yes--- staff on student, and student on student.

10. Did any of the staff use drugs or alcohol while on duty?

Not to my knowledge

11. Were kids ever left unattended that should not have been?

Not to my knowledge, though both facilities had their moments.

12. Were meals limited?

Diets were monitored by the state, but the meals were sub par (alot of hamburger helper and tuna helper, alot of chef boyardee, alot of crappy pre-made stuff, snacks were junk food because of the calories, not the nutritional content.)

13. Did you help implement a level system or peer review system?

Yes, there was one in place when i got there... The students earned points to advance in levels.

14. Was isolation used as punishment?

Three Springs- it wasnt called isolation, it was group ignore.  The student would still stick with the group but not allowed interaction.  In some cases, the student would be required to cook own meals outside of the group.

Morningstar- there was an isolation room that we could lock from the outside.  we mostly used this room for extensive restraints... the room was the size of a large walk in closet.  It had a light to be controlled from the outside and a deadbolt on the door.  When i got there, we were only supposed to use the room in extreme cases.  Children would urinate on the floors to get out of the isolation room.  some children would smear poop everywhere.  Bathrooms were kept locked and had to be opened with a key.

15. Was contact for the student with society limited? In what ways?

Yes for both facilities.  Rarely or no contact allowed.

16. Did the kids seem happy or sad? What was the day to day mood like?

Three Springs: kids hated it.
Morningstar: kids didnt know any better, they were mentally retarded.

17. Do you feel your place of employment was the best place for the students in your care?

In some cases yes, in others no.

18. Do you keep in contact with students still?

1 student from 3 springs. yes. and i;ve had contact with a couple others as well.

19. How common was physical assaults and fighting?

Three springs - every day
Morningstar - every day

20. Did you ever have to restrain a student, if so, how many times?

Three Springs - like 4-5 times in 3 months (they discouraged restraints)  most of my incident reports were from physical altercations.

Morningstar - Every day 3-5 times a day with different students.


21. Were you properly trained to do restraints? Were they ever excessive?

Yes i was properly trained by their system.  and yes i believe some restraints were excessive...

22. Do you regret working for a program?

EVERY SINGLE DAY!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Looking for Ex-Staff Testimony
« on: May 21, 2007, 09:00:24 PM »
average length of stay at my particular three springs facility....3 months... 6 months if you got guilted into staying longer than 3 months.  1 year if you got sucked into the whole "the program/job gets better as you go along with it."

Brainwashing happens.

Desensitization happens.

Ex staff suffer from post traumatic stress.  Things were done that i dont agree with, but went along with because it was "the program".  It was the way things were supposed to be done.  I dont deny that i got sucked into a black hole of a program.  I was a "n00b college grad" who "looked to change the world".  I had warnings from people at my college (administrators and teachers) who told me to avoid Three Springs.  I didnt listen because i thought i could make a difference.  I started May 28, 2004 ---  I quit September 10, 2004 after having a nervous breakdown in my apartment prior to going on shift "by myself"   I worked 106 days...15 weeks,.... 3 months and 3 weeks... and it drained me.  IT sucked the life out of me.

What happened at my facility should never ever happen to a person... child, teen, or adult.  It was cruel and enslaving.  We worked from 5:45 am until 11-12 midnight.... with no breaks.  Calls for help went unheeded by administration and supervisors.   I have long periods during that time that i have blocked out due to the excessive stress.

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that poor child :(  there is no way he was left unattended for "a few minutes"  something like that takes time and the child would be squirming and other children would have noticed something... that was malicious intent to kill.

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Open Free for All / Kids and prizes
« on: May 16, 2007, 05:16:37 PM »
pencils, erasers, little dollar store trinkets that dont cost a billion million dollars.  glitter pens, flourescent pens, coloring pages (printouts on the internet), cheapo coloring books (get these to rip the pages out etc. little hotwheels toys (the cheapo dollar store kind)

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Contraband
« on: May 13, 2007, 01:26:30 AM »
3 springs girls in ga--- it varied from cabin to cabin but the standards...

1. Clothes (including undergarments) - this applied to short term program residents as well as some longer term residents.

2. Shoes - outdoor shoes to be locked up in a "foot locker" (residents were allowed to wear flipflops inside).

3. Silverware - no knives, what little we did have was locked up.

4. Meds

5. Food - the pantries and fridges and freezers locked.

6. Any sharp objects (razors, scissors)

7. Lighters

8. Counselors Keys.

9. Cleaning stuff.

10. Any and all closets/rooms had to be opened by a key (most were kept permanently locked)

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Help please!
« on: May 08, 2007, 07:13:14 PM »
are there any private schools (like regular day schools) in your area?  Maybe if you explain your situation they may be able to help you compromize.  A private school is a great way of getting him the low student/teacher ratio and improving one on one time with teachers to help him excel academically.  I am NOT talking about a TBS or Boarding school.  just a regular old fashioned private school thats offered in practically any town.  Additionally, they may have tuition assistance programs or tuition waivers for needy families.

Another option is to have the special ed department test him for deficiencies.  They may be able to make recommendations (maybe he needs a tutor or maybe he has developed some sort of "road block" that is preventing him from excelling in school)  As for the acting out, he may be embarrassed that he is experiencing failure in school , so his behavior becomes his way of "coping" with failing.  If a child is frustrated with something, they will act out or do something to draw attention AWAY from what they are frustrated with.  For example.. a kid who has a hard time reading may act out anytime he is required to read in a group setting or privately, it disrupts the class and allows the attention to be focused on his behavior instead of reading.  He gets removed from the class due to his behavior and he doesnt have to read because he is removed.  Life goes on.

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Facility Question and Answers / three springs of NC
« on: May 02, 2007, 11:22:11 PM »
i... am really unsure where to start... you should do a search of these forums to turn up 3 springs threads....

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could have been prevented if parents just took the damn keys away from their irrisponsible son.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Forgiving former staff members
« on: April 27, 2007, 03:04:35 AM »
No offense taken try another castle.....

Pretty much anyone i've contacted who were placed at the program were happy to hear from me and in some way, relieved that someone still cared about them to remember them after all this time.  

Granted, i can only remember a few of their names in the myriad of children that i was a staff to, and i dont expect every one of them to forgive me, as a matter of fact, i dont expect any one of them to forgive me.  Whether or not they forgive me for anything i have done, i have attempted to make amends.  I dont push the issue with any of them. and leave it completely up to them if they want to contact me back.  

Additionally, at least one i contacted seemed to have needed a friend who understood what lied beneath her surface self.  She needed someone who understood what she went through and she needed an outlet.  I'm glad i could be a support in that area for her instead of brushing her aside.

I went into the job with the intention of staying in the job because i got the memorandum from my parents -- "you move out and get a job with benefits that is full time and can support you and pays at least 20,000 a year"  The job i chose (three springs) happened to cover all those bases that my parents wanted me to find.  Because they expected me to stick out whatever i started, I "stuck it out" for close to 3 and a half months.  At first i was naieve about what was going on with the program.  That wore off after approximately a month.  It progressively got worse until i had panic attacks about work and ALMOST put myself in a mental psych hospital due to the stress and sheer absurdity of the job.  I was a "green" college student, just graduated and "out to change the world for children".  That goal hasnt changed, but my approach to "changing the world" has and DOESNT include places like three springs.  Any child i can prevent from landing in a place like that is all worth it to me.  And any child i can help in their healing process from being placed in one of those wretched places, is all worth it.

Try another castle,  I dont expect forgiveness, i just hope you can understand my view point.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Forgiving former staff members
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:50:38 AM »
well said guest...

I willingly admit i stayed for 3 months and 2 weeks before i finally quit.  Towards the last 2 months, i stayed only because i needed the money and i thought i could "make it work".  I did have to restrain kids, and i do have regrets for having done that.  I also have regrets for not speaking up when i saw stuff that was questionable ( a kid swallowed staples, and instead of sending them to the hospital, they put her on suicide watch)  I only wish i had the guts then that i do now to stand up for those who are being hurt.  i only regret not figuring it out sooner.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Forgiving former staff members
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:42:53 PM »
as an ex-employee of a TBS/ Wilderness program... i have contacted some of the kids i was a counselor for (through myspace or other means -- at least those i can remember) and i've apologized for putting them through hell.  Even though some of their hell was not my fault, it felt only right to apologize for insisting on increasing their discomfort.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Post Secret.com
« on: April 23, 2007, 05:17:26 PM »
check out post secret.com this week.  Theres a post close to the middle/bottom thats in reference to a RTC.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Is wilderness good option for anarexics?
« on: April 18, 2007, 09:28:53 AM »
i call troll

only a stupid idiot would send an ANOREXIC to a wilderness program.

ANOREXIC ppl need hospitalization NOT wilderness programs

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Table Restriction
« on: April 15, 2007, 06:05:29 PM »
pardon... but what exactly is "table restriction" and what were the "levels"?  you mentioned lower level  etc... was table restriction like detention where you had to eat in silence?  or what?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Authorities say Polk teen killed himself
« on: April 12, 2007, 08:44:57 PM »
the star you mentioned hanzomom... is probably and looks like the one thats being used/implemented in the school here in georgia

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