Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
MONTANA ACADEMY, MONTANA
nightcrawler:
Joyce,
Get a username and private message me. You want some info on Monarch? How about the lack of accreditation? I know of one child that ran away from Monarch just recently. The "school" is a CEDU spinoff, with ex-CEDU staff running it. They are following the destructive BM model. Do you want a robot for a child?
Your wasting your money, you can find better. Edcon(men) recommend the schools their buddies are currently hiding out at. Stop doing what Monarch tells you to do and say. Have you stood up to Monarch yet? Did they threaten you by implying your child will be worse off if you don't comply? They will.
Nightcrawler
spots:
--- Quote ---On 2005-05-30 00:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's surprising to me to read the responses my posting generated. Do I know what my daughter will be like in 5 years? No, and neither do you.
What I do know, is that my daughter is alive right now, and sees a future for herself unlike some of her old "friends".
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All parents on this board can identify with your fear of your daughter *not being alive* if she continued whatever behavior got her "put" [what other word would you use?] into the Montana facility. Teens do weird scary things as they grow up. However, have you questioned the process that needed 18 MONTHS, out of the most important maturing years of a young person, to effect a change? That's nearly 600 days of constant, way-more-intense-than-normal control of every moment, including personal hygiene time, daily self-critical "therapy" sessions, and the lack of random "daydreaming" that is necessary to develop a healthy mind. Throw in all the time away from the rest of the world she will eventually have to live in...one with current economics and war she should understand, one with a continual barrage of advertising she should be taught to interpret, one with random and senseless acts of true love and kindness that even stray kittens thrive on...that she is missing. Your daughter has been removed from Life, and her "attitude" (improper in your eyes) has been the single focus of her world.
Dear Mom, how would you do existing in a workplace where every single second at your desk was being watched for transgressions against the Code of Behavior, often transgressions made up as you go along, and administered by dumb yockels who somehow have been placed above you in the chain of command? You would probably retreat into the safety of quiet obedience after a year and a half of this anxiety and terror. We're presuming here that you wouldn't have your lunch removed or your bathroom break disallowed if you forgot to respond to your hourly requirement of praising the rightness of your workplace environment. We're also presuming that you get to go home at day's end and vent your frustration on your family or the dog or the weeds in your garden. There is no such relief for your daughter, who is still held captive and incommunicado.
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Making an assumption that I "put" my daughter in this school to make my life easier seems to fit into your stereotype of the "I don't want to deal with it" parent. You don't know me, or my situation.
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Because I personally have dealt with a life twisted by such an institution (and ALL BM facilities are the same, your "Academy" being fairly notorious and blatant enough to make it to the List of Red Flags), I can predict your future with more than an educated guess. I don't know you, true, but I know literally hundreds of parents and survivors like you, and the results are dismally similar.
Joyce, this post on Fornits is not for you. You are a lost cause, smugly confident in the rightness of your born-again-Christian type attitude. I wonder why you are here, reading all this "negative" blather and fearful of your choice for your daughter being "painted with the same brush" as all the other facilities. We're not talking about Harry Potter's "school" here. We're talking about a sinister private prison where one can only hope to work off one's sentence and eventually be released back into The Outside. That freedom is hard for a teen to deal with, and [from experience] I can say that it will take about half as long for the "conditioning" to wear off as it took for it to be imprinted in the first place.
This post is for the others out there, who think there is an answer for their troubles in hiring an organization of greedy uneducated captors for a whole lot of money. Like fine wine, if it's very expensive, it must be good...right? It's not, and my point in participating in this forum 21 months after my child was released is to remove that option from other parents considering incarcerating their children.
Anonymous:
Hello Nightcrawler, Im interested in your experience with the Monarch Academy, did you say your child was in the school? I will further research the CEDU, BM model (behavior modification?) and Edcon(men) references but would appreciate ANY information about the previous anacronyms. Furthermore, your own experience would be beyond valuable, and in fact may help others in suffering from compounding trauma upon the traumas of a troubled adolescence. Many thanks in advance.
Anonymous:
Hi Joyce,
You are no idiot, these people just don't understand or have never been to any of these facilities. They think they know but have no idea, so keep thinking and doing what you are doing, your daughter is graduating let these idiots keep talking!!!!
spots:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-01 12:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hi Joyce,
You are no idiot, these people just don't understand or have never been to any of these facilities. They think they know but have no idea, so keep thinking and doing what you are doing, your daughter is graduating let these idiots keep talking!!!!"
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Uh....WRONG. Been There, Done That, Understand "These Facilities" very well. Have a child who was there. Struggled for a year on bringing sunshine into our child's daily life. Failed. Tried everything to get her out. Failed. Tried to get the facility shut down. Succeeded.
Dare I say, I know more about "these facilites" than you, Dear Anonymous. Could it be that, JUST MAYBE, you also have a child incarcerated, who you are hoping will not hate you in your later life?
Your advice to Joyce to "keep thinking"? If only she had thought at the beginning.
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