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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2005, 07:32:00 PM »
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.

 


"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!"


He took his vorpal sword in hand:
  Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
  And stood awhile in thought.


And, as in uffish thought he stood,
  The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
  And burbled as it came!


One, two! One, two! And through and through
  The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
  He went galumphing back.


"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
  Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
  He chortled in his joy.




`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.



Faith is believing something you know ain't true.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2005, 02:08:00 PM »
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking ... -6408r.htm
 
UPI Hears...
By John Daly
UPI International Correspondent
Washington, DC, Jun. 13 (UPI) -- Insider notes from United Press International for June 8

A former Bush team member during his first
administration is now voicing serious doubts about
the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11.
Former chief economist for the Department of Labor
during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11,
then the case for an 'inside job' and a government
attack on America would be compelling." Reynolds
commented from his Texas A&M office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings."
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2005, 04:07:00 PM »
With approval rating down, time to rekindle some fear.

Pentagon to host 9/11 march, show
BY MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon will hold a massive march and country music concert to mark the fourth anniversary of 9/11, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an unusual announcement tucked into an Iraq war briefing yesterday.

"This year the Department of Defense will initiate an America Supports You Freedom Walk," Rumsfeld said, adding that the march would remind people of "the sacrifices of this generation and of each previous generation."

The march will start at the Pentagon, where nearly 200 people died on 9/11, and end at the National Mall with a show by country star Clint Black.

Word of the event startled some observers. "I've never heard of such a thing," said John Pike, who has been a defense analyst in Washington for 25 years and runs GlobalSecurity.org.

The news also reignited debate and anger over linking Sept. 11 with the war in Iraq.

"That piece of it is disturbing since we all know now there was no connection," said Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq veteran who heads Operation Truth, an anti-administration military booster.

Rieckhoff suggested the event was an ill-conceived publicity stunt. "I think it's clear that their public opinion polls are in the toilet," he said.

Rumsfeld's walk had some relatives of 9/11 victims fuming.

"How about telling Mr. Rumsfeld to leave the memories of Sept. 11 victims to the families?" said Monica Gabrielle, who lost her husband in the attacks.

Administration supporters insisted Rumsfeld was right to link Iraq and 9/11, and hold the rally.

"We are at war," said Rep. Pete King (R-L.I.). "It's essential that we support our troops."

He also said attacking Iraq was necessary after 9/11. "You do not defeat Al Qaeda until you stabilize the Middle East, and that's not possible as long as Saddam Hussein is in power."

Originally published on August 10, 2005
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2006, 09:51:00 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060301/ ... eb352979_1
Wed Mar 1, 7:00 AM ET

(PRWEB) - Duluth, MN (PRWEB) March 1, 2006 -- A society of experts and scholars has now joined with Judicial Watch in calling for release of videos that are being held by the Department of Defense, which are essential to understanding events at the  Pentagon that transpired on September 11, 2001. Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which is dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11, has gone beyond Judicial Watch by calling for the release of other films and evidence that, its officers maintain, are essential to understanding 9/11.

"It is outrageous that the government is withholding this vital information", said James H. Fetzer, founder and co-chair of the society. "This concerns one of the monstrous events of our time and deserves to be in the public domain." The group, whose members include such prominent figures as David Ray Griffin, Morgan Reynolds, John McMurtry, Wayne Madsen, Robert Bowman, Webster Tarpley, and Andreas von Buelow, has been speaking out against what its own research suggests has been complicity by elements of the administration in the crime.

They are calling for immediate release of the full Pentagon surveillance tape as well as video tapes seized by  FBI agents minutes after the Pentagon hit; a complete inventory of the plane wreckage and debris from Flights 11, 77, 93, 175 or any other aircraft that crashed or was destroyed on September 11, 2001, including, but not limited to their location (whether warehoused or otherwise), catalog of photographs and videotapes taken of any items from the planes, and results of all tests and examinations conducted concerning any of these items.

Judicial Watch has filed a lawsuit demanding that DoD release its film footage. In addition, the scholars call for the release of a complete inventory of any steel, other metal, or other materials from the World Trade Center, including, but not limited to the location (whether warehouses or otherwise) of all such items, catalog of photographs and videotapes of any items from the scene, and results of all tests and examinations conducted concerning any of those items.

Judy Wood, a professor of mechanical engineering at Clemson University and a full member of the society of scholars, has emphasized the importance of this material for those studying the collapse of the Twin Towers and World Trade Center 7. "This material has the potential to resolve crucial questions about the forces that were responsible for the buildings' fall, including the possible use of incendiaries and explosives", she observed. "It is of great importance that we have access to it."

They also call for release of 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage held by NIST; tape recordings of interviews by air traffic controllers, at least some of which were deliberately destroyed while in the possession of representatives of the government; a complete accounting of "terror drills" that were being conducted that morning, which may have been used to mask the attack; the cockpit voice recorders and other "black boxes", three of four of which are reported to have survived the Twin Towers' collapse; and other related evidence.

According to Professor Fetzer, the SEC possesses knowledge of "put options" on American and United Airlines, which are suggestive of advanced knowledge that the attacks would take place; Secretary of Transportation

Norman Mineta gave very important testimony to The 9/11 Commission, which it chose not to include in its report; and the

Secret Service conducted itself in a manner suggesting that it knew there was no serious threat to the President, even following the attacks in New York, while the Commander-in-Chief ignored the unfolding drama.

"We are inclined to believe that these events were orchestrated by the Bush administration in order to instill fear in the American people," Fetzer said. "The use of violence and threats of violence to manipulate a populace based on fear," he observed, "is the definition of terrorism. The release of this vital evidence will help to confirm or to dispel our concerns about what happened on 9/11." Added Wood, "The American people are entitled to know the truth about their own history. If the government has nothing to hide, it should have no objections to releasing all this evidence for experts and scholars to study."

Fetzer also noted today's Zogby International Poll, which shows that 90% of American troops in Iraq believe that they are fighting to avenge Saddam Hussein's role in 9/11. "This would be funny if it weren't so sad", Fetzer said. "The administration falsely linked Iraq to 9/11 even though it knew better", he remarked. "Even the Osama Bin Laden 'confession tape' appears to have been faked. We want to know the identity of those who perpetrated these despicable acts."

Scholars for 9/11 Truth maintains its own public web site at http://www.st911.org. Documentary support for its request is available at http://www.st911.org/petition/.

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Scholars for 9/11 Truth
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2006, 10:04:00 AM »
I want to hear the flight recorder of the planes that crashed. If the story is the way the government says it is, it should contain muslims saying "allah akabar" and shit before they crash. This would rally a lot of support at home for the war on islam.. oops.. I mean terror. I don't get it?

IMO, the 9/11 attacks were so perfectly terrifying, so effective in what the effect was, and a lot of those in this administration were waiting for a "pearl harbor like attack" as they wrote in their PNAC.

I'm guessing there is a reason why there is a govt. covereup. I don't think we will know why for 50 years at least though. And I don't think it's as spectacular as some would speculate. My theory is another state power was behind the attacks and to prevent WWIII our govt is keeping it under wraps until our forces are ready for the next world war. Until the govt. comes clean it's just as plausible as their theory!
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2006, 10:55:00 PM »
Reichstag Fire ~ Enabling Act

Lucitania ~ America enters WWII on the European front.

Pearl Harbor ~ Pacific Front

Bunch of very murky, jerky shit, what with assasinations, non war military and police actions, ever expanding covert opps at home and abroad, The Summer of Woodstock, the Summer of Manson, the drug war, anthrax, seriel killers and school shootings, day traders going postal, Iran Contra, LewinskyGate, OJ..

Rummy is chummy w/ Sadam, the President and former president and pretty much all of their inner circle and extended families have their very fortunes and blood tied to the Saudis, among other wealthy robber barrons.

9/11 -> Anthrax -> the Patriot Act.



"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins; all of them imaginary."--H.L. Mencken, 1923

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2006, 04:21:00 PM »
Lusitania was a pretext for entry into WWI;

Add to your list the Maine as a pretext for the Spanish American war
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2006, 11:16:00 AM »
I stand corrected.

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2006, 11:17:00 AM »
Is it time yet to speak of the USS Liberty?

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2006, 10:59:00 AM »
that article debunked nothing
you are a fucking fool if you dont see the inconsistancies in the 9-11 commissions report
its obvious what really happened and why
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2006, 12:05:00 PM »
***I want to hear the flight recorder of the planes that crashed. If the story is the way the government says it is, it should contain muslims saying "allah akabar" and shit before they crash. This would rally a lot of support at home for the war on islam.. oops.. I mean terror. I don't get it?

Isn't it the least bit curious that the titanium black boxes were totally incinerated  :rofl:
So many questions. No answers.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2006, 01:38:00 PM »
The biggest conspiracy theory is the "official 9-11 report"
 Even a retarded 3 year old can tell that somethings not right here...
 2 words for you " building seven"
 Larry silverstein (leaseholder on WTC complex) let it slip in PBS interview that they decided to "pull it" ( term used by demolition experts for a controlled demolition) then later tried to backtrack and say "oh I meant call the firefighters back out of the building"  :roll:
 I suppose he refers to groups of people as "it" huh?
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