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Clymerchick:
Thanks for your clear explanation. It's good to see someone who doesn't agree with the school's practices, but isn't set on deeming everything abusive. Like I said before, I myself disagree with things that the school did, but don't consider any of it abusive. I like the way you put it:

"It's what didn't happen that should have happened, or what did, but shouldn't of. It's truths verses false. It's laws, or broken laws. It's the entire principle of things..."

The school has a lot of potential, has helped many girls, hindered others. I don't think that John and Colleen would mind shoveling their own horses shit, doubt it matters to them that much. While I as there we thought it as like we were giving back to him for what he was giving to us, at least I kind of saw it that way. I also liked doing work in general. I was one of those people that had fun loads of fun mauling wood with Doug, or always wanted to be a mower. You know what I mean.

Anyway, it seems like some people are upset about a lot of petty things about the school, but they add up to something greatly upsetting to some of you. I don't know what to say about it other  than I hope you find what really matters to you most: getting past the troubles it caused you, solving the problems for future girls, or somehow finding satisfaction in a lawsuit. Good luck.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-05-13 07:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

This lawsuit is not all about abuse..somewhere along the line it got twisted around as that..it's what's right from wrong.I t's what didn't happen that should have happened, or what did, but shouldn't of. It's truths verses false. It's laws, or broken laws. It's the entire principle of things. it's a doctor claiming to be a doctor, but not actuaaly being one.

Let's not look at it from an "abusive" perspective there's to many measurements to abuse.

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You're absolutely right. You say the word "abuse" and people have very specific ideas what that means.

I don't know what your lawsuit is about, except the vague descriptions you have given. That's fine. That's nobody's business unless and until you make it so.

I can tell you what my idea is for the forums, though. it's about people claiming to be doctors or experts or professionals at anything from substance abuse to eating disorders who simply are not experts in those areas. Even the licensed, certified experts seem to not really have a handle on these issues. That's almost another issue entirely.

But these people running programs based on the Synanon method seem to have no clue how destructive their method is and even less interest in hearing about it. They don't set out to abuse and destroy people, I'm sure of that. But they can take those good intentions and $3.50 and get a nice cup of cappacinno at Starbucks for all I care. I think people ought to be able to find out the other side of the issue before they send their kids to these people for help.

War is God?s way of teaching Americans geography.

--Ambrose Bierce (died 1914)
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Anonymous:
John doesn't need to have a liscense to practice therapy---He is the ehad master of the school, and he was a teacher, not a thearapist---it alwasy felt much different in group with him rather then Gary.  Anyways,  just want to put that out there.

Anonymous:
Actually, you do need a licsense to practice "therapy", (which I'm pretty sure he has) but you dont' need a license to call yourself a "counselor".  Anyone can call themselve a "counselor".

Antigen:
Counselor? Therapist? What's the diff from the pov of a screwed 14yo kid?

I hate when the discussion comes down to maliable definitions.

If it's such a good idea to spill your guts and look for wisdome to a more-or-less random group of other fucked up teenagers, then what's wrong w/ gangs?


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-- A. Whitney Brown

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