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katfish:

--- Quote ---On 2005-05-08 22:39:00, Anonymous wrote:

"No program is perfect, none has 100% satisfaction rate, none fixes everyone, none of them work for everyone.  Normal high school did not work for me... works for some others.  



Obviously you are all going to say Colleen was lying in the email she wrote to me, and I'm somehow stupid not to see through it.  But whatever.  I'm over reading malicious comments."

--- End quote ---


No program is perfect, but what about abusive?

Reagrding Colleen lying, yup, she is... and that's disappointing.  I don't think you're stupid for believing her, I would if I didn't know better.  
I think that most of us unhappy with MMS have much better things to do with our time than sit around and plot to be malicious.  It's ridiculous to suppose we're just saying these things to be mean- if we didn't feel this was such an important issue that needed to be addressed, rest assured we would not waste our time.  
Hopefully those of you who feel we're simply being mean can consider that, myself and several other students who are perfectly happy with our lives (some who left MMS over a decade ago- myself included) feel so strongly that their tactics were unethical that we are willing to sacrifice our precious time to bring it to the light of day not for the sake of ourselves, but for others. It's cathartic and even theraputic, I'll admit, but that's about it.
Best to you,
kat

Anonymous:
Katfish! You are awesome!!!

katfish:
why, thank you very much.

Anonymous:
Sarah-Thanks! I respect your facts!

Katfish- I hear ya. Do you understand that MMS has changed completely since you attemned it Ten years ago?  

And you have power here in this forum the power of influence-Especially on institutionalized, confused women that just got on a website that shows the negative side of the place that supposedly helped them and probable freakin did wheather you liked it or not. Hypoycritical behavior Colleen threatened lawsuits, so are we, John did therapy with out a liscense, do you or Anitgen have a liscense.I think that it is great that you all are getting your thoughts and experiences out. I have seen some harmful things here as well, gossip, insults, people theruputizing when no one asked for it, and recruiting.  I am bringing this up because I urge you to understand that you and antigen are some kind of leaders here.  And you making some big public claims. Everyone believes what your saying. This is a very big responsebilitie.  Maybe there is to much power,

Someone else anonymously posted that this was confidential.  Its not.  Anyone can read this and if they have and care everyone knows whats going on, or whats not going on.  

One last thing and then I will hush.
To whom ever posted The FACTS page they aren't facts they are your perception, they are your facts.  This is about me merely posting someof my own facts signing off......

nameless like the rest.

katfish:
Hey anony, post above,

I understand MMS may have changed, although from what I've heard it's changed not necc. for the better. However, I did hear John Mercer appears less and less and that sounds like a good thing to me.  Although someone said he will be appearing more frequently and that alarms me.

Whatever power I yeild here, which is probably limited to girls who find similarities in our experiences.  While I agree there is sense of power in that, it is not the way you describe.  It is always empowering to the individual to find like-minded individuals who offer support by relaying like stories and describing instances in which they feel they were wronged/abused.  Like minorities in a society, you gain strenth in unity and by association.  I'm confident these young women know their own story well enough as they have been clear in their descriptions of it and expect that my opinions have no bearing on their feelings about what they experienced at MMS. I certainly not that powerful! That is, perhaps they feel better knowing I have shared my feelings and thoughts and feel comfortable sharing, but as far as influence, I disagree. I think it's fair to say that if MMS helped them they would say that- several girls have certainly been clear that MMS was not only harmful but also helpful.  Others are clear advocates for the program.  

I'm not a therapist nor have I ever offered up any kind of therapy to another here, although I do work as an advocate and counsel people in a limited capacity outside this forum, I don't believe I've ever stated that here. If I do offer up theories with regards to MMS they are based on studies posted through various educational websites.  One need not have a license to post other peoples work or offer up a summary of that work.  In fact honrary degrees are offered to people who have not studied in institutional setting...One final point, there's an obviously tremendous difference between posting my experiences without having license and running a school for struggling teens without the proper training...

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