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« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2005, 02:36:00 AM »
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"YOu make it sound as if the people who dont like your precious programs are all satan worsshiping, drug abusing, non accountable, unhappy dolts. I know for a fact I am perfectly happy and have a little more self esteem now! Sorry you have to be locked up in your little WWASP hell. I am free!!"


PHX actually does believe that anyone who doesn't conform with the program and its goals (=to break children down and coerce them into thinking the program helped them) must be dead, insane, or in jail. Or, in the very least, have a very screwed up life. Hey, if they said it in the seminars, then it must be true, right PHX? God, you WWASPies are pathetic. Grow a brain. Or, rather, liberate the one you were born with.
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« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2005, 07:10:00 PM »
I was just having agood laugh at PHX s post again! She is soo freaking funny! I know I said I didnt want to respond to you anymore but honey you are a freaking weirdo. I didnt "blame" the program for anyhitng. All I said is it isnt effective in changing people into creepy little robots is all. It dosnt help keep kids off "drugs" and it certainly didnt change me into a mormon. Did you go to cross creek? Poor me victim! HA! You are too much! What exactly am I acting like a "victim" about? Why dont you stop parroting program lingo and come up with some original thoghts and comments. Too many agree because IT IS FUCKING LAME AND INNEFECTIVE. YOu think I like admitting I was wrong? Do you think I like remembering shit like this? You think we all make up this shit for fun?
You are a sad little person. I feel sorry for you. Hope you dont go ruining others lives with your repedative dribble. PLEASE promise me you wil not give out advice to anyone. Then again anyone wiling to listen to your advice should have to suffer your dilusional advice and commentary.
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« Reply #77 on: May 31, 2005, 10:17:00 PM »
I like the point in this post about the circular reasoning of program-dummies: It is okay to force a kid to go there against their will because the program is so effective that it will save their lives whether they like is or not; if it doesn't, however, it's the kid's fault for not accepting the program!  Genius!

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"This thread is a fucking hoot...



Dolphin is the most delusional twat I've ever seen! She puts me down for having consentual (but not vanilla) sex with my girlfriend that she propositions me for, for her own enjoyment, and then sings the praises of the program.... and now we have this anonymous fuck who blames it on the victim if the program doesnt work!



If its all up to them, why go to a program at all? I thought the program was supposed to help kids whether they liked it or not - hence why they're drug there by escorts with handcuffs and locked in, and put in those ridiculous seminars that by design break them down!



But oh well, Dolphin can keep putting down kink while referring people to her little program and being high off of her delusion and the total control shes gotten over her kid via it, and this annonymous fuck can keep insulting someone personally and making everything her fault even when the real blame lies at the feet of Gilcrease's psycho-bullshit, and those mormon businessmen who made this little racket to get rich off of dumbfucks... like Dolphin and this anon troll!

Truth does not have to be accepted on faith. Scientists do not hold hands every Sunday, singing, "Yes gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! Amen.
--Dan Barker, former evangelist and author

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« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2005, 04:28:00 PM »
One more thing. yes I got the results I wanted. I found my own truth and realized I am more in control of my life then the program led me to believe. I am happy now. I am ok wiht my choices. Just because the program didnt turn me into a robot dosnt mean I am not a good happy person. sorry you are so diluded as to think that Im not. Besides you dont know me. So how can oyu be so quick to judge. That is what the program does to you, turns you into a judgemental little nazi. I am not however into that frame of mind anymore and frankly I am VERY ok wiht that. SO yah. Have a nice life. Hopefully soem day you will LIGHTEN UP!
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« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2005, 06:01:00 PM »
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Yes, Antigen, Amanda got the results she intended. You are correct.


No, that's not what I asked. I asked if you are getting the results that you intend. And, by extension (as you identify so very solidly w/ it) the rest of the troubled parent industry. When people sue you or the papers report negetively, you always blame someone other than those under discussion. Never WWASP's fault when riots break out over and over again at their facilities, it's the newspapers' fault for reporting it! Not your fault so many graduates kill themslves, it's their fault for not doing the program right.

You're such total hypocrites! Everybody gets the results they intend, except for when bad things happen to you. Then it's some evil other out to do you harm.  :roll:

Q. I simply ask, why is PUNISHMENT the solution with regards to the narrow group of behaviors which encompass illegal drug use....?

A.Pharmaceutical Business, both legal and illegal, run by the same people either way, money coming to the middle from both ends.  Bush.
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« Reply #80 on: June 01, 2005, 11:51:00 PM »
Its ok Antigen! I think our troll like friend is gone!   :grin:  good riddance meanie!
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« Reply #81 on: June 05, 2005, 09:04:00 PM »
I was just thinking about the program and thought of something really lame. i remember that the girls facility was right next to the boys and sometimes while the girls were going to the lunch room and stuff we woudl pass the boys outside playing bball in the courtyard. I remember it was a rule that if you made eye contact or even looked in the genereal direction of the boys you got in trouble, but the boysc coudl look at you as long as they wanted. Such bogus bullshit! They guys also watched rated r movies, girls had to watch pg or g. That place is so full of shit. We were forced to look at the fuckign groud when a boy was around! FUCKING SEXIST BASTARDS!
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« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2005, 05:09:00 AM »
I've always wondered what happened to a pair of girls I knew who got sent there.  If memory serves, their names were Aloe and Sara - made a bolt from their program and got sent one circle deeper into hell, also known as CCM.  CCM was used as a threat at my program - "be good, or else you'll get sent someplace like Cross Creek."

Reading this thread, I see why.
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« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2005, 11:31:00 PM »
I agree with everything that has been said about Cross Creek.  I was there for 13 months and I feel lucky.  There were girls there who had been there for around 3 years.  I was anxious everyday, I lost hair, and dreaded everyday.  I still today think about Cross Creek everyday.  I have nightmares about this place probably 4 times a month and I wake up almost in tears, fearful the whole day after that in some way I might be going back.  It's been hard for me to make friends when I got back.  My parents don't understand the effects this place has had on me.  Eventhough I am out of there, I still feel like my every move is being scrutinized and I'm fearful.  Everyday there I had to teach myself to detach my mind.  The one thing that sticks out in my mind is the smiles on the therapists faces when they would twist around your thoughts to make you wrong.  I could not have one original thought or I would not leave.  I could not say one thing that disagreed with them or I would be stuck there.
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« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2005, 11:57:00 PM »
To Program Parents:

How does it feel to know you sent your kid to a program that couldn't make a dime if not for  stupid parents like you?

Hello???? It's not the teens who are troubled, it's their parents.

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« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2005, 02:44:00 PM »
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 CCM was used as a threat at my program - "be good, or else you'll get sent someplace like Cross Creek."


Which program was that? WWASPS holds CCM out as their flagship; the kinder, gentler WWASPS. So what's the real story, friend? Do tell!

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« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2005, 12:28:00 AM »
I still have dreams too. Its weird. I dream that I go to visit and they make me stay. I stand there arguing with the staff saying "I graduated! Im 22 years old! I am married and have a kid! You cant keep me here!". But the same result every time. I stay for a long time and ask every day "When can I leave?" Its horrible.
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« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2005, 01:17:00 AM »
I attended cross creek manor for about 1 year in 2000. I have posted a letter also at struggling teens.com the website if you would like to read it. How dare a place like Cross Creek Manor even exist. Parents are so desperate they don't realize what a major mistake it is for their kids to be there. I've never felt more abused or depressed or lonely or miserable as I did there. It is an experience I wish I could block out of my mind. Not one girl I know of (unsurprisingly) did not relapse once they got out of there. If the LIARS that run and work for Cross Creek did not brainwash or manipulate the parents so well, lets just say they wouldn't make nearly as much money. My heart feels so much sadness and sympathy for the girls that are there now. My mom knows now what a mistake cross creek was. I wish every parent in there would read this and the millions of other horror stories and complaints against Cross Creek Manor and its affiliated programs. Thanks!
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« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2005, 07:05:00 AM »
Hi
I just found this site and was very happy to see all of you talking about the reality of CCM. I was in Garth's group B group for 18 month from 1994-1996. I remember after I left the fear of returning kept me in a striate line. I however realized that I was living in a homemade cross creek, and made plans to move in with a friend and her mother(who opposed of CCM) when my best friend from home was sent there. And then my worst fear came true I was sent back. I was lucky that I had a few moments with my mom before I went and we agreed that if nothing had changed about the way I felt about the program I could leave in one month. But I have to say that month was the hardest month I ever lived. Garth was disappointed to say the least and let me know. I worried that he would get to my mom and convince her to keep me in there, witch he tried. My mom stayed true to her word and took me out after one month THANK GOD. Anyways I am excited to share stories with you all and I hope to run in to some of the wonderful friends I made as we went through hell together.
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« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2005, 06:04:00 PM »
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was lucky that I had a few moments with my mom before I went and we agreed that if nothing had changed about the way I felt about the program I could leave in one month.


Er, huh? She was asking for your approval of it? What did she think the program was?

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."
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