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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-05-25 14:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What Amanda posted looks just like her own contract that she wrote because there really are no guidelines"
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How the fuck do you know? You weren't even there. You are, in effect, calling Amanda a liar when you have absolutely no basis for that assertion.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-05-25 14:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You are, in effect, calling Amanda a liar when you have absolutely no basis for that assertion."
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This is one thing ALL program supporters have in common. They are delusional.
Angola Cheeba:
K lady! :roll: Geez. Well, the contract I posted AS I SAID BEFORE was GIVEN to me by the PROGRAM in the seminar PC1. Those WERE the guidelines they gave us. And I know better then anyome cuz I went through PC1 twice. Got he sma estupid contract guideline BS twice. So its not mine. AND THE PARENTS AND THERAPIST AND FAM REP ALL HAVE TO AGREE ON THE CONTRACT. How many times do I have to say that?
Oh, if you didnt write na extensive contract, parents flipped out. And no, I wrote the contract actually believeing that after CCM that contract would be EASY to follow! Little did I know...
And my theraspist and my parents wanted it all in there and if I disagreed, we would argue till I agreed to do it. What was I gonna do? Say no? Yeah that dosnt work too well with the program. They used to tell me when I would bring up how my step mom is unreasonable about rules and guidelins, that I was wrong and I had to do what she said because she was my parent. And like I said before NO ONE I KNOW EVER USED THEIR HOME CONTRACT. Not one person. I followed it the longest, and i still didnt get to level 6. So yeah, why dont you just wake up to the fact that their way just may not, uh, work. Just because the program came up with it dosnt mean it is effective.
Angola Cheeba:
Hey ginger,
This is off topic again, but it isnt letting me edit my own posts, even though Im logged in with the right name and password. Any advice?
Amanda
Anonymous:
Ginger,
Im in one of those perplexing moods. I was just talking to my mom the other day and I was telling her about the programs and she posed the question "so what do you do instead?"
I dont know. I know my parents tried alot to help me. My mom went to therapy with me, I went alone. I never was allowed to address any of the stuff with my step mom though, like I wanted to. Maybe thats why that wasnt effective?...
I also told my mom maybe I could have gone to a private school or something and she said she tried, but because I dropped out of school and my gpa was so low, no one would take me. So what should parents do when they tried alot of stuff and nothing works?
I know you are a mom and know what it is like to love a kid. I have a 15 month old little girl. (I know, the fun stuff is still ahead!) I just know that it would kill me if I found out she was having sex at 13 or shooting heroin or smoking meth. I will of course teach her to respect herself and to make smart choices. And I will NOT spank or yell at my child. I will teach her to be a free thinker. And to get involved in her community. And learn responsibility. But you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink. My little girl is so like me. She is so independant and smart! (most program people confuse intelligence with manipulation and would say she is manipulative.) And in a way I am happy about it and kinda scared. I just want her to be safe and happy and creative and just be her. I know being a good parent is a good defense. I know teaching your kid to be curious and not stifle their creativness is good. But what do you do if say you were in my moms position? My mom was a great parent. My step mom always said she spoiled me, but thats because she thinks spoiling a kid is letting them be creative and think for themselves. My step dad was firm but caring and taught us alot of really good stuff. But my fathers wife is a deamon from hell and basically is the reason I was so depressed my whole teenage hood and was so moody as a kid. I dreaded summer vacation cuz I had to visit my step mom. But my parents told me what they did at their house was ok and what mom did at her house was ok too. So my mom never found out that my step mom and dad hit us repeatedly on our bare bottoms with belts (the end with the belt buckle :grin:)
She never knew and since I was terrified of my step mom I never told her thats why I was so insecure and fearful of people and life. So she tried alot of stuff to help me, and the program seemed like a good idea and I actually seemed to get better after going there. I dont know. Sorry for the rambling. Just wondering if you have an idea of what to tell her. I know she would never refer anyone to the program but I know her friends have kids who are having a hard time and I was wondering what advice you would give them?
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