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Angola Cheeba:
Interesting...
Thanks Ginger. Good post. I also agree wiht what anon wrote. If parents would simply teach their kids well from the beginning and teach by example also, their kids might not be depressed and might not dabble in dangerous drugs.  

Truth be told, when I was in high school, mostly my friends and I smoked pot. When I went to CCM, my friends started doing and selling crystal. My husband did it a couple of times, but he has no desire to ever do it again. Just because you smoke weed dosnt mean you will turn into a crazy drug addict! Ive smoked weed on and off since I was 13. Never even tried meth, heroin, coke, ect. I have no desire to either. I feel natural drugs that come from the earth are here for us to use. They are not manufactured processed crap. And my sister who smoked weed on and off has never done anything but shrooms and pot.  I have friends who did try other drugs, got involved with coke, meth, ect. But now that they are older and a little wiser, they dont do that anymore.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-05-25 09:57:00, Antigen wrote:


Drugs, legal or not, are part of our culture. Out of control, harmful drug use is also a part of our culture. Most kids are left to their own devices wrt figuring out where to draw the line. All the adults are just spouting nonsense at them right from the DFAF. It's worse than worthless because, what little useful information we have to give them comes to them tarnished by bullshit like the gateway theory.



We need to stop doing that and just tell the kids the truth
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Ah, truer words have never been spoken!!  Both of my kids and a good portion of their friends have said that the things I told them about drugs made much more of an impression than any "authority" because I didn't lie to them.  If I had spouted off the typicall DFAF/AA/insert org here was trying to tell them I would have lost ALL credibility.   They figured if I was straight up with them about things they would find out on their own anyway (pot NOT being harmful, NOT gateway) then I was straight up about the dangers I told them about.

Cayo Hueso:

--- Quote ---On 2005-05-25 10:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-25 09:57:00, Antigen wrote:



Drugs, legal or not, are part of our culture. Out of control, harmful drug use is also a part of our culture. Most kids are left to their own devices wrt figuring out where to draw the line. All the adults are just spouting nonsense at them right from the DFAF. It's worse than worthless because, what little useful information we have to give them comes to them tarnished by bullshit like the gateway theory.





We need to stop doing that and just tell the kids the truth
--- End quote ---



Ah, truer words have never been spoken!!  Both of my kids and a good portion of their friends have said that the things I told them about drugs made much more of an impression than any "authority" because I didn't lie to them.  If I had spouted off the typicall DFAF/AA/insert org here was trying to tell them I would have lost ALL credibility.   They figured if I was straight up with them about things they would find out on their own anyway (pot NOT being harmful, NOT gateway) then I was straight up about the dangers I told them about.  "

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oops. me
If you ask the Government for the right to assemble you deserve to be told no .
 

--Jim Lesczynski, Manhattan LP chair, on "unorganized" gathering @ Central Park
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Antigen:
Dolphin? Where'd you go, Dolphin???
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Anonymous:
Right here Antigen.  I'm a parent, yes.  What is a referal agent?  SOmeone that talks about Cross Creek to parents who are already looking for help?  I do that on occasion.

As far as the contract.  What Amanda posted looks just like her own contract that she wrote because there really are no guidelines.  I do agree  that the parents have to agree to it, but ultimately, the kid is the one that has to live by it, so they need to make sure it works for them, not the parents.  

Maybe that's where Amanda thought she had to do the contract for the parents and didn't take into consideration if she would actually be able to live by it.  It's really only about personal boundaries that are unhealthy (to the kid)

Amanda, did you write the contract for your parents?  Big mistake, but it looks like you learned fast it wouldn't work.

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