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ABC Brat Camp
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---What is disturbing about the shows that shine a positive light on a deserving program is that they may ignore the fact that these are huge exceptions and soooooo far from the rules - the horrendour reality of the other "boot camps."
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Neither of the British shows featured deserving programs. Just read the posts in this forum about RedCliff Ascent. And Turn-About Ranch is on ISAC's watch list.
Anonymous:
Oh Please!! What whiners!! These kids are more than brats!! They're on the road to death, breaking the law, or killing someone themselves. What would you suggest parents do? The ONLY thing I questioned on the show was the 7 mile hike. I thought it was a bit much. I couldn't have done it. But they made it, didn't they? How about all you complainers take care of all the nasty children out there? You have NO idea what these kids put their parents through. This is a last resort for these parents. PLEASE don't act like there were other alternatives.
Deborah:
So, in a therapeutic sense, would 'brat' be the ethical term to use for someone who is on the road to death, breaking the law, or killing someone themselves. Naw, I don't think so. The later is a somewhat accurate description for a small percentage of these teens. The former is just judgment, the scarlet letter, intended to shape the publics opinion of the distressed and neglected kids. One program staff refered to them as 'emotional terrorists'. Should anyone in a therapeutic role be using these terms? No. Unethical.
For starters, parents could begin to take responsibility for the relationship they have created with their kid and at least one parent can enroll and go through the program too.
Your assumption is wrong. Many of the parents here, myself included, have dealt with our own distressed teens. And in my case, my son's distress was due to having spent 6 months in an abusive program that resulted in a lawsuit.
The only whiners are the genuinely ignorant and helpless parents who see themselves as victims of their children. Sign them up. I'm sure they'll see the light when they are tortured to a breaking point. If it's good for the kid, it has to be good for the parent.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-18 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
What would you suggest parents do?
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I suggest that if you think this sort of treatment will benefit your kid, then you administer it yourself. If not, find a better way. But paying strangers to rough up your kids for you is just sickening!
Truth does not have to be accepted on faith. Scientists do not hold hands every Sunday, singing, "Yes gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! Amen.
--Dan Barker, former evangelist and author
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-18 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"They're on the road to death, breaking the law, or killing someone themselves."
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This is a typical argument of a program supporter. I cringe everytime I read this, because it couldn't be further from the truth. Sure, you might believe it, but it's not true for 99% of the kids sent to these programs. Oh, but I know, your kid is different, they surely would have killed themselves, right? When tens of millions of other teens do fine without programs, dealing with the same issues.
Let's look at your quote again:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-18 16:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"They're on the road to death, breaking the law, or killing someone themselves."
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These are the kids there
Lauren 17, Davis, CA
Jada 15, Boston, MA
Nick 14, Seattle, WA
Shawn 17, Irvine, CA
Heather 16, Centreville, VA
Lexie 17, St. Helena, CA
Frank 15, Sacramento, CA
Derek 14, Little Rock, AR
Isaiah 17, Winton, CA
The Reason the kids are there:
Lauren was a straight "A" student who excelled in everything, until her father suddenly passed away when she was 11. Unable to deal with the grief, Lauren turned to drugs and admits to smoking pot every day and doing whatever it takes to get her fix. Lauren's mother sent her to SageWalk hoping that her daughter would face up to her father's death and quit drugs.
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Jada refuses to go to school. She has dropped out of two boarding schools and nine private schools in the last six years. Instead of going to school, she throws parties and experiments with sex, drugs and alcohol. Jada's an aspiring singer who thinks she doesn't need school because she's going to be a star one day. She's also a compulsive liar who is always making excuses. Her parents sent her to SageWalk so that she'll become motivated about her life, stop taking things for granted and start telling the truth.
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Nick is a dyslexic teenager who is constantly fighting with his family. Not only does he disrespect his father and yell obscenities at his mother, he once even pulled a knife on his twin brother. Unable to deal with Nick's relentless anger issues any longer, his parents made the decision to send him to SageWalk.
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Shawn has been struggling with drug abuse for several years. He admits to stealing from his own mother and is constantly truant from school. Shawn's parents believe his problems stem from the fact that he was adopted, and they sent him to SageWalk hoping that he'll learn to face his abandonment issues and gain self-esteem.
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Heather used to be athletic and innocent until she started hanging out with the wrong crowd. Now she experiments with all types of drugs and is constantly running away from home for days at a time. Her adoptive parents sent her to SageWalk because they feel that Heather is heading down the same road as her birth mother - to a drug-induced coma.
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Lexie used to be a good girl who rode horses and excelled in school, but when she was 11, Lexie was molested by someone she trusted. She has since suffered from depression, become verbally abusive toward her parents, given up horseback riding and started failing in school. Lexie's parents sent her to SageWalk hoping she'll learn to deal with the secret that still haunts her.
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Frank has anger management issues and problems with authority. He was recently suspended from school for arguing with a teacher and was sent to live with his uncle, a probation officer. Frank admits to being verbally abusive and furious at the world, and was sent to SageWalk to learn how to deal with his anger.
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Derek is a destructive teenager who has been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. He is failing school and is verbally abusive towards his mother. Derek's parents have sent him to SageWalk to learn discipline, respect and self-control.
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Isaiah is an angry punk rocker who smokes, drinks and has an obsession with fire. Isaiah is verbally abusive towards his mother and blames her for his parents' divorce. He's defiant and bitter, and is constantly getting into fist fights at school, especially with the 'jocks.' Isaiah's mother sent him to SageWalk to learn how to deal with his anger issues.
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Yeah.. they're some real hell-raisers, eh? :wave:
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