Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore
Joyce Harris
mom2three:
I find it ironic that you are so concerned everyone know about the "real" Joyce Harris when there are apparently EIGHT substanstiated incidents of abuse on record for Whitmore. Do you have substantiated reports from the authorities about Joyce in this regard? Or just insinuations and rumor started from a supsect source?
I am also sick to death about the photo issue. It seems to concern you people more that Joyce took some silly romantic dolled up pics of herself for her HUSBAND than it does that these photos were STOLEN from her computer!! Surely Photos of this nature are a private matter and not for public consumption, I dont know what you and your husband (or wife) do in your private relationship nor do I care. I have read that boudoir photos are quite popular for couples, so if she did do something silly and romantic for him, she is in good company. We are talking romance here, not porn! I should think in this day and age with all the divorce we should be happy for any couple to have a healthy sexual relationship, more power to them! God does allow for that you know, between married couples, at least that is my understanding.
The thing that bothers me about these photos is not that they exist but that they were STOLEN off her computer! That should concern everyone! Whats on your computer??? How the hell did the Sudweeks come to have them also unless they a. participated or b. condoned the action? Do the means justify the ends here? The only thing I can see Joyce guilty of here was not having a proper fire wall, hardly illegal or immoral.
As for the fire issue, if my child were there, yep I would be plenty upset the fire marshall said a night fire watch had to be maintained for the reasons stated. I would not have my child there until those issues were taken care of. In the event of a fire in an old heritage building, I think it doesnt take a fire expert to see that getting 40 children out safely would not be easy given that there is apparently only one exit off of the upper floor and a poor sprinkler system to boot.
Can you not see how serious that is? I have only 3 kids to get out of my home and I pray I never have to do it because it terrifies me that I would have to leave one behind in the event that I had to get them all out. Multiply that 10 x and I cannot see how that wouldnt concern the people living there.
Maybe think your concerns over again.
Anonymous:
SUDS----That Bed and Breakfast LICENSE still in effect????
If you can find people stupid enough to spend the night with a FIRE WATCHER on duty instead of a Fire Alarm doing the job----well, open the doors...turn up the hot tub....YOU'RE IN BUSINESS!
Anonymous:
YEA CHERYL:
Tell those Bed and Breakfast guests that the rat shit in the rice pudding is raisins...and feed them well!!!!!
BuzzKill:
A point not yet made about the fire hazard - the very real possibility of a fire starter.
I gather Whitmore does take kids with behavior problems despite not being a treatment center or offering therapy. . .
Fire starting is a growing problem among "troubled" kids. According to a Producer with M-TV, who called me once about a documentary they were considering (wonder what ever happen with that?) Fire starting was becoming as big a problem as self mutilation.
Personally, I find that hard to believe, and yet,
I know of a situation here in town, where a girl's home operated by MaryHurst, was set a blaze by a troubled girl. Everyone got out OK, but they had a fire plan and were up to code. It could have been very different had that not been the case.
And there are these statements about Cheyral liking candles - everyone burning candles - This, combined with the population they are boarding, and a facility in violation of fire codes - Seems like an issue worth some attention to me.
As far as this picking on Joyce, You are wasting your time and effort. It has long been clear who the liar is; and it aint Joyce. You are just further proving yourself to be an ass.
Who ever is posting that about Joey - Anon posts are fine on Fornits, but if you are an actual witness, I hope you'll stand by your testimony, give it some credibility by putting your name to it, and filed a report with the various authorities, and I wish you'd file one with ISAC.
Gmom:
As far as Joyce Harris and her efforts and concerns about the Whitmore, I call it a public service. What she states is the truth -- like it or not. It wouldn't matter if there were pictures of her standing on her head naked. She is not the one being investigated -- plain and simple. Get a grip, people, the Sudweeks have committed and are still committing crimes and lying through their teeth. The sad part, they are bringing their own kids down with them.
It takes dedication, time and effort to right wrongs and bring about change. There are not enough people who commit themselves to bringing about change. It's usually an attitude of "leave it for someone else to do." I say kudos to anyone who feels stongly enough to actually do something.
GREAT WORK, JOYCE!!
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