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« on: April 28, 2005, 02:50:00 PM »
So Who does alot more drugs now that they have left cedu?

Before I went to cedu I just smoked weed and cigs and drank.

Now I do/done...
1.Meth
2. Coke
3.Acid
4.Shrooms
5.Ketamine
6.Opium
7.XTC.
8.Pills
9. <3HeRoIn<3

Might be leaving out a few

Who else....?
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 02:50:00 PM »
10.Crack
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2005, 02:56:00 PM »
11. PCP

12. ecstacy
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2005, 07:36:00 PM »
Um, it sounds like you need to grow up!
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 08:03:00 PM »
If you think about it, was it wise for the staff to tell us that it was safe to talk about our "drug thinking" in raps and be really honest about it?  As I see it, it was a way to always keep it in my mind and always think about wanting it.  And because there are rules, most of us didn't try to get it again until we got out.  But the most damaging thing that I saw it do, was what it did to people like the one who posted this site.  People who didn't have experience with hard core drugs got to hear how much fun we had getting high all day long.  So, naturally, when you are "freed" from the school, what is one of the things that is going to pop in your head?  "Wow, now I get to see what these people were talking about the whole time".  I had a really close friend in BCA graduate.  He was always called the "look good" and EVERYONE trusted him.  He got whatever he want due to that.  I admired that, because he was being real, not just to get things.  His problem was alcohol, but nothing out of the ordinary high school drinking.  He came back and visited one day.  I was in a RAP, and being older school, I was excused whenever I needed to be.  When I saw him walk in, I was SO excited, until we locked eyes.  I could see, through glass and a few feet down the hallway, that this guy was fucked up!  I excused myself from the RAP and went out to the hallway to talk to him.  I pulled him outside and asked him what kind of drugs he was on.  I think just about every hardcore drug except crack and herion came out of his mouth!  I was devastated, and felt a little guilty.  Maybe if I never talked about it...I could have helped him to not go there.  Just makes me wonder....
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2005, 03:23:00 AM »
yup exactly, before cedu, I thought weed was hardcore haha, after cedu, i was sober for a lil bit, then i smoked again, theni got bored tried coke, then meth, then acid shrooms ex, all that other good stuff, now its tha H baby, shits good
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2005, 09:58:00 AM »
http://www.healthscout.com/news/1/521817/main.html

"Experts: 'Get Tough' Programs Don't Curb Youth Violence
One-on-one therapy best at preventing delinquency, studies find
By E.J. Mundell
HealthDay Reporter
FRIDAY, Oct. 15 (HealthDayNews) -- Highly publicized anti-violence programs like Scared Straight, D.A.R.E., and boot camp-type interventions won't change troubled kids' violent behaviors and may even encourage them, according to a new report from a U.S. government panel of experts.
"These programs can cost money and yet not produce any outcome the community wants -- and there's also the possibility that the programs might actually harm some youth and the community," said panel chairman Dr. Robert C. Johnson, director of Adolescent and Young Adult Medicine at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey.
He and other panelists spoke to reporters at a press conference held Friday in Washington, D.C.
In their State-of-the-Science Conference Statement, experts from the panel -- convened and supported by the National Institutes of Health -- noted that rates of youth violence in the United States remain high, despite declining from a peak in the mid-1990s.
In their deliberations, the panelists sifted through data from trials going back to 1990 on the causes and prevention of youth violence. They found that anti-violence programs involving "scare tactics" or bullying by adults simply don't work.
"Many of these programs take the child out of the family," explained panelist Dr. Leon Eisenberg, a professor of social medicine and psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. "And whatever they may do or not do for the child while he's in the institutional setting, [they] leave him completely adrift when the treatment is over. Some of these programs are, frankly, quite dreadful."
Johnson agreed. In fact, these "tough-love," group-oriented efforts "often exacerbate problems, by grouping young people with delinquent tendencies together, where the more sophisticated instruct the more naive" in destructive behaviors, he said.
Often, Eisenberg said, parents see boot-camp type programs as a quick fix for problems that have much more complex roots.
"It [temporarily] gets rid of the problem. You don't see it every day, and you assuage your guilt by paying money for it -- you think you're doing something for your child," he said.
Unfortunately, that may not be the case, since studies show no benefit to these types of initiatives in curbing bad juvenile behavior, according to the experts.
Fortunately, safer, more effective violence-prevention programs exist. Studies suggest that long-term, one-on-one or family-oriented therapy does seem to work in turning kids' lives around, the panel found.
Panelist Richard Lempert, a professor of law and sociology at the University of Michigan, said it's easy to think "nothing works," but many models do. "Working with individuals to increase skills and competencies, sometimes in school settings, sometimes in homes, sometimes in families -- that seems to be promising," he said.
Looking over the data, the experts noticed common threads between programs that worked and those that didn't. Effective programs -- such as one-on-one behavioral therapy or family interventions -- tended to involve long-term treatment, lasting a year or longer, and were targeted at specific stages in child development. They were also most often delivered outside of institutions such as juvenile detention centers.
On the other hand, programs that didn't work also shared certain features, such as gathering troubled kids together in large groups, using poorly trained and under-supervised staff, and emphasizing scare tactics, boot-camp-type environments, or browbeating by stern adults.
Johnson said much more research needs to be done to figure out exactly which interventions work best at keeping troubled teens from violence. Right now, the panel is urging the creation of a national, population-based Adolescent Violence Registry to better track youth violence trends, as well as research focused on how communities can best spend their money to keep youth violence at bay.
Simply locking violent juvenile offenders away may help society feel safer, but studies suggest it does not serve as a deterrent to others, the experts noted.
"Simply put, the practice of transferring juveniles to adult jurisdictional systems can be counterproductive," Johnson said, "resulting in greater violence among incarcerated youth."
According to Johnson, youth violence is most often rooted in the family, and that's where the real solutions may lie. "If parents make sure to communicate on a constant basis with their children, and if they model the appropriate behavior to their kids, that's going to be a very important support throughout childhood," he said.
More information
For a close look at the study, head to the NIH Consensus Development Program (consensus.nih.gov ).
SOURCES: Robert C. Johnson, M.D., panel and conference chairman, National Institutes of Health State-of-the-Science Conference, professor of pediatrics and professor of psychiatry, and director, Adolescent and Young Adult Medicine, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Newark; Leon Eisenberg, Ph.D., professor emeritus of social medicine and psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston; Richard Lempert, Ph.D., professor of law and sociology, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, and director, division of social and economic sciences, National Science Foundation, Arlington, Va.; Oct. 15, 2004, National Institutes of Health State-of-the-Science Conference Statement "
Copyright © 2004 ScoutNews, LLC. All rights reserved.
Last updated 10/15/2004.
This article can be accessed directly at:
http://www.healthscout.com/news/1/521817/main.html
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2005, 10:02:00 AM »
From the article, look at what doesn't work:

"On the other hand, programs that didn't work also shared certain features, such as gathering troubled kids together in large groups, using poorly trained and under-supervised staff, and emphasizing scare tactics, boot-camp-type environments, or browbeating by stern adults."
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2005, 10:05:00 AM »
"Panelist Richard Lempert, a professor of law and sociology at the University of Michigan, said it's easy to think "nothing works," but many models do. "Working with individuals to increase skills and competencies, sometimes in school settings, sometimes in homes, sometimes in families -- that seems to be promising," he said.

Looking over the data, the experts noticed common threads between programs that worked and those that didn't. Effective programs -- such as one-on-one behavioral therapy or family interventions -- tended to involve long-term treatment, lasting a year or longer, and were targeted at specific stages in child development. They were also most often delivered outside of institutions such as juvenile detention centers..."
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 03:24:24 AM »
I did 'em all after I left Cascade.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 10:16:24 AM »
Programs like CEDU, which was not a drug rehab to begin with, cannot effectively stem drug use because the program centers around making you feel worthless. You are broken down and raw on one hand, but opposingly, deluded into this grandiose idea that the program SAVED your life and represents all that is good.  This causes internal dissonance.

I was never addicted to drugs at all. I used recreationally as a teen and actually quit months prior to CEDU easily. After CEDU, I did not resume, but that was a personal decision made prior to attendance. Haven't even seen anything since I was 16. I don't have, obviously, an addictive personality.

However, if people are prone to drug abuse, I do not see how a program dedicated to breaking you down does anything but encourage escapism and self destruction. When you leave the surreal environs of CEDU, you emerge in to a reality with a severely distorted sense of its importance and also a misplaced trust in the tools you were given.  You slowly realize either consciously or subconsciously (which is worse because you are still in denial) that nothing adds up, and you, your Stepford self, and your new cultic paradigm of emotional well being is NOT integrating into the outside world.

This forms a clusterfuck of internal chaos and denial that could only unleash your sleeping demons.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 04:24:03 PM »
honestly it is from coping with CEDU and my family that made me a pothead. we got a big dose of "if you need medication (drugs) you're weak" at CEDU. It's taken me years of ruining my lungs and other organs to start really taking a look at the existing depression. Before, during, and after.

It's been a great crutch and I'm scared as shit to give it up, but identifying which things to "blame" on me and which things to blame on how I felt when I left CEDU, and all the life choices I've made coping with being there and what I
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learned" there and all the things I still need to unlearn from there. They never addressed real issues, they sheltered parents responsibilities to their children by being an outsourced agency that harms the internal emotional working of growing young people. Adult drug use from places like CEDU is a "no" brainer.

P.s. Confirmation codes suck.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 04:27:01 PM »
Am I High or is it really hard to read the confirmation codes?

One of the reasons I just don't post anymore. Subject matter often needs anonymity.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 04:57:55 PM »
Quote from: "secretary"
I did 'em all after I left Cascade.
Its a personal choice regardless of if you went to a program or not.  Some people just grow up faster than others, get interested in a career and back off the drug use.  Others take longer and they experiment with harder stuff.  As you get older you just cant party all weekend and then be efficient at your job monday morning.
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