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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2002-10-26 08:03:00, nick wrote:

"the riot included a bunch of gang members and such from indiana and chicago,who did not want to comply with the program.so they bagan fighting and threating and it took all three houses to go to e-8 to get it under control.it resulted in criminal charges and the were sent back to there states."

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Hmmm.... so it worked, huh? Yah know what? 20 years ago, I honestly didn't know this would work. I could never understand why people went to the trouble of acting out and getting beat down when it was pretty obvious that it would always end the same futile way. But I was a willing victim of a little slight of mind. Here's how that worked.



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 Most of the rules that we compliers had to comply with had to do with restrictions on communicating with anyone, including oneself, candidly about anything that happened.

Someone please tell me if any of this seems familiar to you, if maybe they did the same thing in Elan but used different lingo.



* No talking behind people's backs. None. You can't say "Joe said hi to me" unless Joe was right there. You'd have to say "I was said hi to" if you wanted to include that detail and make it legal, in which case, it would be meaningless. So, essentially, we did not talk about anything that was going on at all, it was verboten. The most verboten degree of breaking this rule was to mention anything at all that would remind anyone of anyone who had not shown up. You couldn't even get away with "Somebody is no longer with us" or "has departed" (both mandatory terms after Chris Casselor came out and informed us that the term "split" was now considered druggieslang and would, henceforth, be verboten.

* No getting into your head! Simple as that. Zero tolerance policy on daydreaming.

* No sleeping. In the car on the way to or from the building, in group, before everyone's MI was done and olcomers had read and discussed newcomer MIs, while the other 5 or so people took their showers, etc. No sleepig except the few hours you might catch after all the obligations were met. Oh, and house parents? This means you too!

* Pay attention to the person who's talking. Not the person who's alternately screaming and crying and begging for mercy on the floor next to you while the rap leader calls for another, louder round of "Zippity Doo Dah!" Unless, of course, the scene is pushing you so close to the edge that you decide you're prefer to get your ass kicked by about 4 people, but at least you don't have to sing and flap your arms around like a seagull on acid and pretend, for all you're worth, that you've never been better, ever!

Hell, look at them?! Don't even THINK about them! Refer to rule #2 above.


At the end of the day, a lot of us compliers actually didn't notice when someone went missing. It was like the Watership Down. We had loud and angry raps and confrontations to burn into our conciousness every single instance of anyone who tried to escape, either physically or mentally, and was caught. But not one whisper was permitted about those who actually got away.

If staff felt the need to say anything, and sometimes they did, it was that they had just died or ODd or landed up in the mental ward or were arrested for prostitution or somthing. Oh, going back to jail was a recurring lie. But they were usually lies.

I shit you not, I never even noticed till I was on staff trainee and was receiving instructions to lead a rap that, when someone split, staff had kept notes in their file about what songs that person had taught the group and would never again allow it to be sung by group. They'd say "lets have a song" and they'd call on someone for a suggestion. If it was on the banned list, they simply picked someone else.

Now that I've run into a lot of former program people (something that, for a long time, I thought I would never contemplate doing, unless I were driving a big, stoute car or truck) I've learned that there were a dmaned lot of people who I remember being there and then I don't.

 But I never noticed them slipping away at the time. The perception was that nobody ever got away, they always got caught and severly punished.


Understand that legal and illegal are political, and often arbitrary,
categorizations; use and abuse are medical, or clinical, distinctions.

--Abbie Hoffman
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American drug war P.O.W.
   10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
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Anonymous:
the riots that im aware of is in 1980,, i thunk,the residents of e/4 went off,, tore the place apart,elans  answer was to turn it into a hospital/jail setting,electonicly locked doors, cells in the womens dorm.they stopped pushing concept of any kind and brought in muscle gaurds instead.after a while they shipped everyone out to jail or hospitals, leaving 3 or 4 that  stayed. when they made that documtenary, they sent most of the peeps from e/5 to parsonfield.it  took a few more months to remove the locks, i seem to recall a button in a little room off the main hall.the residents  that stayed told really creepy stories about the kind of shit that went on during the riots and after  concept was removed,, almost an anything goes as long as u dont get caught on the spot.to this day,, i m haunted by the sounds of screaming from the cells,shortly after we got there,, we went tight, and the cells became a easy place to put the real whacked 1s.if therer are such things as haunted  houses,,that house is

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-10-12 18:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"after a while they shipped everyone out to jail or hospitals, leaving 3 or 4 that stayed. when they made that documtenary"
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Sounds real similar to me. Were you allowed to talk about them afterward? To say their names? Heard from any of them since?

What documentary?
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.

--Mark Twain
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Anonymous:
was called children of the night ,, i thunk..um,, let me try to rephrase what happened ,, in short,,,there was a riot{in e/4},they pulled the plug on the whole housse as far as any pretense of therapy,then they sent the whole house{cept 3 or 4} to whatever other locked facility they could.. then they  repopulated house with mostly e/5 residents{ i was 1 of em}they moved us under the pretense of making up a new house{e/5} to shoot the film.i assume was handpicked crop of  uber  residents. i was always courious about the timing,, i wonder  how long  those last residents were kept in 4,, w8n for  the house to fill.i do seem to recall a gaurd there when we arrived, but  cannot gaurantee.the tales they told of the time was ripe with glasseaters, rapes, and beatings.i have no clue of there wherebouts,,i recall 1 13 yr old there for burning down an apt building  cause the lady didnt pay her paper bill.. these wernt nice people.i dont think they ever responded to the program,, they spent there time between ramrod and shotdown till realeased ,, i assume

Nazi:
I can just picture it now, A riot breaking out and Jeffery,Marc, and Marty tucking their tails and running.
I remember one time I was getting a GM and I was so pissed off st Marc I raised my voice to the point of rage and marc backed the fuck off so fast.he sensed I was pissed and new it was in his best interest to back off.
Jeffery really didn't want to confront me at this point either so approached me in the most gentle fashion he could.
Both of these guys were intimidated of me at this point and knew I had enough of their bullshit and the program's bullshit.

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