Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Elan School
Carmel from Texas
Antigen:
Anon, I can't say I've ever heard of that exact scenerio at a Straight facility. There have been riots, though, and individuals who should have gotten some serious psyche care who, instead, were just isolated and alternately group beaten for days at a stretch.
I don't know about everyone else, but I almost always felt there was a limit to how far anything would go. I've heard since those days from people who didn't have that comfort. And there were some host homes where newcomers got raped and sodomized or locked in a shed for the night with a couple of psychotic dogs tied outside. Those were the "strong" homes for the more scary clients. I didn't see that side of it firsthand because I always just complied right up till the moment I'd make a run for it.
I don't want to get into my place was worse than yours. I think for some kids in either place, it was too, too much and way too cruel and leave it at that.
I'm trying to figure out if they ran the same scam on ya'll about no one ever getting out. When I was there, I believed it completely. The only way I got the courage to run ever was that I knew I was just a little crazier than most and really was willing and able to disapear to some other state without a clue or trace or any tie back to home, friends or family. None of the others who got caught and dragged back would do that. They always went to friends or family and that's how they got caught.
I've found out since that some of the kids who faught all the time or played crazy did either get pulled or kicked to the curb. And I'm trying to find out if the same thing happened at Elan.
Were there restrictions on speech like I described? If someone went missing from your own house, would you really know for sure what happened to them? If they said they went to another house or to a psyche ward, would you ever have a way to be certain? Or would you just have to take their word for it? After someone went missing, would you be allowed to talk to eachother about them? Or was it taboo to speak of?
A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother.
--Anonymous
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Anonymous:
intimidated,, hmmin my time if u ever yelled at gottlieb in rage,, hed just put you in the ringfor 10 or so rounds,, thenhave your face slammed in the corner if you still reacted in any way.this is a man,, who after a resident did a particulary nasty job of slicing his arms,, had me hold him down while he poured rubbing alchohol on them,, he was mad becouse was middle of the night and it woke him up.. id think he be flustered becouse he couldnt get 5 guys to kick your ass and throw you in a dumpster for a month.. :silly: as for the director of e/4 at the time,, im thinkin was henry milton{??}
Anonymous:
anti,, in elan,, in my time,, i must answer no,, i recall 1 female who actually made it out,, { a daring midnite split ,, timed with her b/f pullin up in a car,, but we werent forbidden to talk about it,, it just flowed under the bridge,, there beeing alot more pressing distractions.everyone else i knew that tried to split eventually got caught. i dont think anyone can quantify how bad ,, or good there stay was,, which place was worse,hell is hell no matter how ya slice it,,,, elans way wasnt to forbid talking about anything,,,{cept sex},, they would just distract you with so many other issues that you wouldnt care about anying that wasnt in your world anymore.. personally,, i never saw sumone actually pull off the old act fucked up till they let me out routine.. they tried, but at most they accomplished was turning there 18 month stay into more hell, till they broke and started cooperating,, i cannot speak for anyone else,, we were much more isolated in e/4 than the poland houses, so it was easier for them to totally control our inputs.no one ever got shipped out,, or just came up missing,, a split was usually noticed within 15 min.then the trackers went out to hunt them.our house was 30 to 50 people,more than enuf peer pressure to do the directors bidding, and isolated on top of a mountain in limerick maine
Anonymous:
lol,, ya ,, henrys wife,,is funny the things that slam back into memory,, i thought her name was claire,, i assumed was the same as the hooker chat thread?she was a nasty 1{not a hooker,, a person},, evil evil
Anonymous:
Interesting to hear that nazi and about the riot would have loved to been a fly on that wall.
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