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Offline Sue Your Ass Off Scheff

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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2005, 09:37:00 PM »
I believe the list you provided can each be a reason to send a child to a program by itself.For instance take depression. To what extent is the depression? How long has he/she been depressed? To what extent is the child depressed?  Does it effect his/her schoolwork? Is he/she considering suicide or physical harm? Sometimes anti-depresants such as Zoloft are the only thing required. Sometimes it is necessary to enroll a child into a program.I hope this eases your mind and I thank you once again for your interest in Pure.

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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2005, 09:47:00 PM »
Niles, I do not believe anything said by a Susan Scheff Troll, Susan Scheff herself, or anyone from organizations such as WWASPS will ever convince you to change your current way of thinking.

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2005, 01:50:00 PM »
Two of the reasons we get such  a bad rep is because people like some of those who post here and THE Media believe the MANIPULATIVE KIDS. That is one reason why THE kids are in programs to begin with. They are MANIPULATIVE. [ This Message was edited by: Pepper Spray Jay on 2005-03-26 10:51 ]
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WASPS is getting stronger despite all the negative publicity. We will always be here to save children.

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2005, 02:10:00 PM »
::troll::  ::troll::  Don't do it! :lol:
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2005, 04:15:00 PM »
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On 2005-03-25 18:37:00, Lawsuit Sue wrote:

"I believe the list you provided can each be a reason to send a child to a program by itself.For instance take depression. To what extent is the depression? How long has he/she been depressed? To what extent is the child depressed?  Does it effect his/her schoolwork? Is he/she considering suicide or physical harm? Sometimes anti-depresants such as Zoloft are the only thing required. Sometimes it is necessary to enroll a child into a program.I hope this eases your mind and I thank you once again for your interest in Pure.



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I was terrible about my homework, and didnt give a shit about school, until college started, but I still managed to ace every test I took and came out just fine, not counting the financial situation my father put me in.

I was also depressed a lot because of my dad's lack of ability to be a father, and because schools in the USA suck more or less now. I also had a semantic-pragmatic disorder... in other words, I didnt properly understand what people meant with everything they said, and said things 'weird' because I didnt know how they'd interpret what I told them. It was 'fixed' by having some good friends, some of which older than my age group (people in their 30s and 40s), and some weekly therapy for one hour.

Had I been put in a program I would have either just been locked up for a few years and put up with boredom and bullshit, or ended up in one of the bad ones and been destroyed. There's NO reason I needed a program and I came out just fine but I'm sure you would have referred my mother if she was stupid enough to call you!

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1. if you dont enroll kids you make no money!
2. you have basically listed *EVERY* problem that a teenager might have and none of them require program incarceration!
3. *YOU* make the determination? WTF are you? A doctor? What qualifications do you have? NONE!

Also - I know this isn't sue, but I'm sure Sue is *READING* this, and other parents on the forum are, so why not go for it? Next best thing to chewing her out on Hardball or some other cable TV show :grin:

Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2005, 11:04:00 PM »
Hi Niles, Susan asked me to address you because she is currently arranging to have a troubled young man to be escorted to Whitmore. I would like to point out that Susan is one of the most nicest people that I have been privledged to meet and work with.Like Susan pointed out, SHE WOULD NEVER REFER A KID THAT DID NOT ONE HUNDRED PERCENT NEED A PROGRAM.NONE OF US AT PURE WOULD EVER WANT A KID REMOVED FROM HIS PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY.If PURE never has to refer a kid ever again, WE WILL BE AMONG THE MOST HAPPIEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. I hope  this eases your mind and once again, thank you for your interest in Pure.
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2005, 11:07:00 PM »
Sorry, thought I was logged in. The above post was from me.
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2005, 06:39:00 AM »
the original question was about RR and their affiliation with WWASPS> Anon. answered this. RR IS PREMIERE! How do I know this? David Gilcrease posted to me about my child a mere 6 weeks ago. He monitors the WWASPS bulletin boards and posts regularly. If neccessary I can probably find you some exact quotes. RR handles seminars from companies and LGAT(large group awareness training) for anyone else that wants it. Premiere handles all wwasps seminars. Same exact company, same exact people. I know, I've met them. Most of the facilitators submit articles to the Source magazine each month. Have they ever been sued for their actions? YES!!!! Inside and Outside of WWASPS. And they have lost.
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2005, 10:13:00 AM »
My parents really thought they were doing the right thing by sending me to Provo Canyon School.  Now that THEY have grown up a bit, they realize that these things on Sue's "list" really are just things that most adolescents will go through.  Indeed, I would be suspicious of an adolescent who did not experience some of these things, as I think one would find that such a person would grow up to have no character.
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2005, 02:46:00 PM »
You ever have a teen so close to ending thier life that you would do anything to save them?  No?  Well until you do, you will never understand.

To quote the "seemingly inteligent person" maybe it is you who is not seemingly inteligent.  When you guys talk of cults it makes me laugh my ass off. :rofl: if only you guys knew what you were talking about... oh well I guess we all have our own opinions.  I don't think it is any more fare to criticize WWASP or the parents who send thier teens there than it is to criticize someone from another religion.  You guys go around ragging on Catholics or Christians or Jews?  Didn't think so.
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2005, 04:14:00 PM »
Actually they do rag on religious beliefs outside of their tiny little worldviews.

Go into Search and type in Mormon or Christian, etc.,

From what I've read, if it's something they either don't want to understand or they are afraid of it, it's labeled a cult.

Resource Realizations/ Coaching/ Seminars are all about paradigm shifts, change, opening your eyes to different possibilities.  BTW, this is about YOU, not about what they want you to be or do...LOL!  Cult - cult ivate your mind.
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2005, 04:29:00 PM »
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Resource Realizations/ Coaching/ Seminars are all about paradigm shifts, change, opening your eyes to different possibilities.  


But it's all done on false pretense, at least wrt the parents who have placed kids in programs where the seminars are required of the parents. And it's done by some underhanded tactics. They intentionally get the participants off-balance, fatigued, overwhelmed and vulnerable before presenting these new ideas. When you're addled and fatigued like that, you're not thinking clearly. It's essentially the same method that organizations like Mary Kay use to get young housewives to blow the family budget on a bunch of cosmetics no one will buy. I think RR is just a little more sophisticated and ruthless in their approach.

As men's prayers are a disease of the will, so are their creeds a disease of the intellect.
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »
Fatigued, etc.?  Is that true or are you stating what you've heard?
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2005, 11:40:00 AM »
You ever have a teen so close to ending thier life that you would do anything to save them?

If your teen is truly suicidal, then what they need is treatment at a psychiatric HOSPITAL.  

Only there will they receive intense treatment from real PROFESSIONALS!

 These facilities are staffed with DOCTORS and NURSES;  THEY are the ones who will examine your child, evaluate their findings, come up with a plan of care, and implement it. They will also work with the parent to come up with a long-term plan of care.  

It is dangerous and neglectful to leave a mentally ill child in the hands of a group of uneducated, non-professionals who claim they will help your child.  They are not qualified to do so.

Please, seek PROFESSIONAL help.
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2005, 11:53:00 AM »
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"Is that true or are you stating what you've heard?"

The two are not mutually incompatible.  I have seen many a post defending the "seminars" but not one that disputes the long hours.  Are you insinuating they don't last as long as we have been led to believe?  Then come right out and say it.  How many hours do participants spend in the seminars and over what period of time?
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