Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Racism and other stuff
Troll Control:
Hey Macaroni,
I agree with what you say here. I'm a white guy and I can tell you that the racism is palpable there.
Also, being a white guy, I heard lots of talk that would probably be "shh'd" around me if I weren't white. It seems in that area that if your skin is white, they assume you're "one of the boys." I heard and saw some really disgusting things in my time in north Georgia.
BTW, did you work at HLA also? If so, can you tell a little bit about your experiences?
Regards,
Dysfunction Junction
SHH:
Macaroni I am sorry you had a bad experience but I can tell you that living in Dawson county was a horrible choice....It IS a racist county unfortunately. Lumpkin county is NOT. Lumpkin county is home to The Army Ranger camp, North Georgia College, and tourist sites, and blacks live in the county, and attend the ranger camp and the college. My son had black kids in his school. I never saw anything racist in Dahlonega. But in Forsyth Co. I did, and in Dawson Co. I did. My former husband and I had a good friend live with us for a time in Atlanta and then later in Forsyth Co. and he was black and when I would go to the store with him in Cumming people would look at us. Really ticked me off. But he came to visit us in Dahlonega also and there he didnt have a problem shopping in town. I also have a friend who lives in Dawson Co. and he is white but he is having problems with being an outsider just the same. The head of the KKK north georgia branch is in Dawsonville, not in Dahlonega as Dysfunction stated earlier. Dahlonega is a much safer place for racial diversity. I just wanted to set the record straight on that. And by the way, I am hispanic. I have experienced bigotry in Atlanta even when I lived there. But personally didnt have a problem the 5 1/2 yrs I lived in Dahlonega. Sorry you felt uncomfortable.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-04-17 06:52:00, SHH wrote:
"Macaroni I am sorry you had a bad experience but I can tell you that living in Dawson county was a horrible choice....It IS a racist county unfortunately. Lumpkin county is NOT. Lumpkin county is home to The Army Ranger camp, North Georgia College, and tourist sites, and blacks live in the county, and attend the ranger camp and the college. My son had black kids in his school. I never saw anything racist in Dahlonega. But in Forsyth Co. I did, and in Dawson Co. I did. My former husband and I had a good friend live with us for a time in Atlanta and then later in Forsyth Co. and he was black and when I would go to the store with him in Cumming people would look at us. Really ticked me off. But he came to visit us in Dahlonega also and there he didnt have a problem shopping in town. I also have a friend who lives in Dawson Co. and he is white but he is having problems with being an outsider just the same. The head of the KKK north georgia branch is in Dawsonville, not in Dahlonega as Dysfunction stated earlier. Dahlonega is a much safer place for racial diversity. I just wanted to set the record straight on that. And by the way, I am hispanic. I have experienced bigotry in Atlanta even when I lived there. But personally didnt have a problem the 5 1/2 yrs I lived in Dahlonega. Sorry you felt uncomfortable."
--- End quote ---
Right on schedule. There you have it, Macaroni. Your experience is hereby invalidated and you are corrected: You NEVER experienced racism in Lumpkin county, Georgia.
Thank God Mrs. Gray is here to TELL you what you heard and saw so you don't have to do any thinking on your OWN.
And your friend wasn't a victim of racism either. He made a "bad choice" in his residence, that's all.
Thanks for straightening that out, Mrs. Gray. Another bang-up job!
Deborah:
***The Army Ranger camp
The Mountain Rangers? Many who were hired to work at HLA's boot camp (Ridge Creek) woops, 'wilderness leadership program'? Why is it they are no longer there? I don't believe you answered that question.
Keith Antonia , Director
Keith Antonia graduated from the University of Connecticut in 1981 with a B.S. in General Business Administration and holds a Masters degree from the Naval War College in National Security. Recently retired as a Lieutenant Colonel, Keith completed 20 highly successful years of service in the U.S. Army as an infantry officer in Airborne and Ranger units. Throughout his 20 years leading soldiers under hazardous conditions, he became an expert at managing and mitigating risk. His effort and supervision led to an outstanding safety record. His last assignment in the Army involved commanding the Mountain Phase of the U.S. Army Ranger School in Dahlonega, Georgia. His goal is to provide a rigorous but safe wilderness leadership program for Ridge Creek students. He and his family currently reside in Dahlonega, Georgia.
Tom Wilburn, Wilderness Team Leader
Recently retired First Sergeant, Tom served 20 years in the U.S. Army Special Operations Forces. His qualifications include Ranger, Pathfinder, Master Fitness Trainer, Advanced Land Navigation, Survival, SpecialForces Mountain Rescue, American Heart Association CPR Instructor, Wilderness First Responder and many other certifications/qualifications. Tom has extensive leadership training and experience. He led soldiers under the most hazardous conditions in combat and in peacetime with outstanding success. He achieved the highest enlisted rank in the Army. He also is a volunteer fireman in Suches, GA where he assists with search and rescue. He and his family reside in Suches, Georgia.
Kevin Connell, Wilderness Team Leader
Kevin recently retired as a Command Sergeant Major from the U.S. Army after serving over 23 years in Special Operations and Ranger Units. His qualifications include Ranger, High Risk Survival, Mountaineering Instructor, Winter Operations Course, Master Fitness Trainer, American Heart Association CPR Instructor and numerous other qualifications/certifications. During his time in the military, Kevin was recognized as a mature, focused leader who was unflappable under the most stressful conditions. He mentored, trained and led hundreds of future Army leaders. He and his family reside in Dahlonega, Georgia.
SHH:
Deborah RIdge Creek was opened right when I left..I have no experience with it other than I did meet Keith Antonia on several occasions. He was the CO of the Army Ranger camp for many years and retired from the Army and then went to be the director....but I am not sure why that is a problem...you dont have to be a counselor to be a director....he managed it not counseled students. And what is the big difference between teaching 16 yr olds mountain skills and 18 yr olds mountain skills?? The army boys were between 18-25 yrs old on average. NOt that much older than Ridge Creek participants. But you seem to have a problem with ex Army people working with children? why is that? Are they somehow bad people?
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