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SHH:
Damn Dysfunction quit reading crap that isnt there did I say his experience was invalid???? NO..I said I was sorry he felt uncomfortable and that Yes Dawson Co. is bad for racism. I never called him a liar so quit twisting my damn words around AGAIN to fit YOUR agenda. It's getting redundant. Why dont you actually read what I type instead of reading what you want into it?

Deborah:
Your arrogance of opinion astounds me. I don?t know SHH. Perhaps you could tell me why a person might feel defrauded if they paid for a Cadillac and was delivered a Geo Prism.

The program was sold as a ?Wilderness Leadership Program? and NOT a boot camp. Why ex-military?

While you?re elaborating, you might also address why the state thinks it might be important for the Director and Staff to have some credentials in the mental health/social science fields and experience working with youth. Can you imagine why they might think that was important? Or that Outdoor Therapeutic Camps be licensed?

You might also explain why the Dir of Counseling at HLA told me that Antonio told her that wilderness programs in Ga weren't required to be licensed. Perhaps they assumed so since HLA had operated 7 years without a license.

290-2-7-.02 Applicability. Amended.
(1) No person, institution, agency, society or facility shall operate a Therapeutic Camp unless a license or permit has been obtained from the Department.

290-2-7-.04 Personnel. Amended.
(3) The Administrator or Executive Director shall have a masters degree from an accredited college or university and a minimum of three years of increasingly responsible experience in the human service, mental health or health care field, or a Bachelors Degree plus 5 years experience in the field of child care, human services, mental health, at least 2 of which includes supervisory and/or administrative responsibility.

(7) The staff member with primary responsibility for planning, developing, implementing treatment services, supervising staff who deliver the treatment and ancillary services, and developing in-service training shall have a master's degree in psychology, social work, education or other related fields and experience and/or training in working with children in an outdoor therapeutic environment.

(15) Child care staff shall be at least 4 years older than the oldest child in their group, have a high school education or an equivalency and experience in working with children in a group setting. Former campers employed as staff shall be at least 21 years of age.

290-2-7-.05 Admission and Intake Policies. Amended.
(4) The Therapeutic Camp shall not admit a camper who has not had a medical examination by a licensed physician within 30 days prior to admission.
[When my son refused the physical he was sent anyway and told he?d have to ?suffer the consequences?.]

(6) The Therapeutic Camp shall not accept a Camper for care until a psychological or psychiatric evaluation and an intake study has been made and based on an analysis and recommendation of the social service worker with approval of the Administrator has determined that the placement meets the needs and best interests of the camper.  [Who does the psych evaluations for HLA when they make a referral to RC? My son didn?t have one prior to RC or HLA for that matter.]

FYI, my son was 14. And no, I would not choose for him to be 'trained' by ex-military. Guys who play war games in the woods for entertainment... or preparation for the white revolution???

SHH Anon Classics:
So are you trying to insinuate that the ex military members are white supremacists??? LMAO....I am sure the Army rangers would LOVE to hear that one.....I already told you that the woods are NOT FULL of white supremacists in Lumpkin Co...ONE racist bastard does not a racist county make....DUH! Just because the ass decided to retire to Lumpkin Co does not mean the woods are full of them...GEEZ how much of a generalization is that?? And to insinuate that somehow the Army Rangers are training for anything other than Army stuff is bizarre. What I did say about Keith was that as a director..he was not required to be a psychologist...if you will LOOK at the website ridgecreek.org they do have counselors....the only one I know personally though is Cheryl. She was my neighbor for a time. I already also told you that I am unfamiliar with most of Ridge Creek since it opened after I left. I know nothing about requirements for bootcamps or for wilderness camps. But I still dont see a problem with ex Army doing the wilderness part...as long as they have counselors to do the counseling. It would be unfeasible for every member to be a counselor...some counselors have no experience with wilderness activities and some wilderness people have no experience with counseling. Of course those doing counseling should have experience, that wasnt my point. My point was the director doesnt have to be a counselor.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---On 2005-04-17 10:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So are you trying to insinuate that the ex military members are white supremacists??? LMAO....I am sure the Army rangers would LOVE to hear that one.....I already told you that the woods are NOT FULL of white supremacists in Lumpkin Co...ONE racist bastard does not a racist county make....DUH! Just because the ass decided to retire to Lumpkin Co does not mean the woods are full of them...GEEZ how much of a generalization is that?? And to insinuate that somehow the Army Rangers are training for anything other than Army stuff is bizarre. What I did say about Keith was that as a director..he was not required to be a psychologist...if you will LOOK at the website ridgecreek.org they do have counselors....the only one I know personally though is Cheryl. She was my neighbor for a time. I already also told you that I am unfamiliar with most of Ridge Creek since it opened after I left. I know nothing about requirements for bootcamps or for wilderness camps. But I still dont see a problem with ex Army doing the wilderness part...as long as they have counselors to do the counseling. It would be unfeasible for every member to be a counselor...some counselors have no experience with wilderness activities and some wilderness people have no experience with counseling. Of course those doing counseling should have experience, that wasnt my point. My point was the director doesnt have to be a counselor. "

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A "retired" white supremacist?  DAMN you're dense.  He was a Grand Dragon of the KKK, then he became a member of the National Alliance, whose HEADQUARTERS are in Dahlonega.  Must have a membership of one, I guess.

I should read YOUR posts?  YOU should read your posts.  YOU DO GEORGIA PROUD!

You are so misinformed it's not even funny.  Wait, can you read this with your blinders on?  Maybe not.

Deborah:
Everyone will rest easy now that you have assured us that the mountains are not 'full of racists'. Did you miss this:
Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=90#95965

I don?t know what the Mt Rangers are up to on their excursion to the woods, hence the question marks???? And, I feel certain that you don?t either. I do find it odd that grown men like to play war games. But, as long as they leave me and my family alone, I have no problem with their shinanigans.

From their website:
Standing Orders   Major Robert Rogers, 1759
 
Don't forget nothing.
Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.
When you're on the march, act the way you would if you was sneaking up on a deer. See the enemy first.  Tell the truth about what you see and do. There is an army depending on us for correct information. You can lie all you please when you tell other folks about the Rangers, but don't never lie to a Ranger or officer.
 
Don't never take a chance you don't have to.
When we're on the march we march single file, far enough apart so one shot can't go through two men.
If we strike swamps, or soft ground, we spread out abreast, so it's hard to track us.
When we march, we keep moving til dark, so as to give the enemy the least possible chance at us.
 
When we camp, half the party stays awake while the other half sleeps.
If we take prisoners, we keep 'em separate til we have had time to examine them, so they can't cook up a story between 'em.
Don't ever march home the same way. Take a different route so you won't be ambushed.  No matter whether we travel in big parties or little ones, each party has to keep a scout 20 yards ahead, twenty yards on each flank and twenty
yards in the rear, so the main body can't be surprised and wiped out.
Every night you'll be told where to meet if surrounded by a superior force.
 
Don't sit down to eat without posting sentries.
 
Don't sleep beyond dawn. Dawn's when the French and Indians attack.
 
Don't cross a river by a regular ford.
If somebody's trailing you, make a circle, come back onto your own tracks, and ambush the folks that aim to ambush you.
Don't stand up when the enemy's coming against you. Kneel down. Hide behind a tree.
Let the enemy come till he's almost close enough to touch. Then let him have it and jump out and finish him up with your hatchet.
 
Notes from one of their rendezvous http://mountain.armyranger.org/PC2000.htm
The Penn Cove Rendezvous is an annual event the takes place in early April that provides an opportunity for Rangers young and old to
fellowship together in a familiar environment--the cold-damp woods.

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