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Who knows Dean Vause - lets have some facts here too
Anonymous:
Okay, that was a bad comparison... in fact it was brutal. First of all, Dr. vause wasn't Brian's father, and second he wasn't making Brian strip!! He simply wouldn't give him a job because Brian was using. I met Brian and I liked him, but get real all of you... he was screwed addict who obviously hated himself and the world he was living. Think about it guys, suicide goes against every natural instinct of man and woman... only severe sickness and insanity can bring a person to the brink of taking their own lives. I'VE HAD ENOUGH... IT IS NO ONES FAULT THAT BRIAN OFFED HIMSELF EXCEPT HIS AND HIS ADDICTION, THAT IS IT! You guys are seriously going too far. I've enjoyed this little debate or argument about AARC, but you crossed the line by allowing that last submission to be posted. I am completely sickened by you now.
Anonymous:
I wrote the two long posts about Brian, and NOT ONCE have I said that Dean was ever responsible for Brian's death... In fact, I said it would be absurd to place that on Dean... So it comes down to this: Either you can't read, or you're so damn stuck in your little rant about how good Vause is, that you can't see the forest through the trees.
Grow up, for your own sake.
This post is only directed for the individual who insists on making an ass of him/her self. Go to a site that supports these programs if this is what you want to talk about, we are unified in our purpose here. You are really nothing more then an irritation. No one is loosing any sleep over your pathetic little rants. So be done with it, I know I'm done with you!
Anonymous:
On 2002-12-04 19:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
" First of all, Dr. vause wasn't Brian's father, and second he wasn't making Brian strip!!
No, Dean was Brian's cult leader. Brian seemed to believe that Dean and Group were his "only hope for survival". You tellin' me that AARC doesn't do strip searches? Coerce confessions? Pressure members to divulge their deepest, darkest and most shameful secrets in Group confrontation? They no longer beat into members' heads that they'll be deadinsaneorinjail without the Program?
On 2002-12-04 19:01:00, Anonymous wrote:He simply wouldn't give him a job because Brian was using.
Oh, I must be missing something. See, I understood that Brian and Dean Vause had a significant history together before the time that Brian asked for that job. Now you're telling me that's not so? Their only interaction was that Brian asked for a job and Dean turned him down?
On 2002-12-04 19:01:00, Anonymous wrote:I met Brian and I liked him, but get real all of you... he was screwed addict who obviously hated himself and the world he was living. Think about it guys, suicide goes against every natural instinct of man and woman... only severe sickness and insanity can bring a person to the brink of taking their own lives. I'VE HAD ENOUGH... IT IS NO ONES FAULT THAT BRIAN OFFED HIMSELF EXCEPT HIS AND HIS ADDICTION, THAT IS IT! You guys are seriously going too far. I've enjoyed this little debate or argument about AARC, but you crossed the line by allowing that last submission to be posted. I am completely sickened by you now. "
Funny, but it seems that suicide, depression, paranoia and PTSD are unusually prevalent among people who've been subjected to Synanon based "treatment". I know, I know. It's the drugs, right? Drugs are driving all these people to desperate measures, right? Compare to the rate of suicide at any high school, where roughly half of the student body have used illicit drugs. If it were the drug use, then one would expect no more than half the rate of suicides, right? But the actual rate is more like .01% in the general polulation.
Something about this just doesn't add up.
Anonymous:
I love it that i am finally irritating you guys... and no I won't go anywhere and leave you guys to continue to write your half truths and slander. If you are going to have asight like this be prepared for some people disagree with you!
Anonymous:
Once again you are taking facts and twisting them to somehow relate to these topics. I think we all know that of the percentage of high school kids who have tried "illicit" drugs, only a very small amount actually continue to use them heavily. Amoung these teens that do continue to use, drugs account for a significant number of deaths and accidents. I agree that suicide is a fairly rare thing this in this world, which brings me back to my original point about Brian, he was screwed up and completely insane when he offed himself... it goes against every natural instinct.
You said that by no way are you blaming Dr. V. or AARC for Brian's death, but you continue to point out what Dr. V. and AARC did wrong to Brian before his suicide. So if you are not blaming them, just exactly what are you saying? Please don't give me some lame answer about how they are "partly" responsible for Brian's death. If you think it is Dr. V.'s or AARC's fault just say so, but please quit hinting at it.
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