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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2005, 07:23:00 PM »
i would think that if the criminal investigation had enough evidence they ceratinly would have closed it immediately  sort of like the closings in mexico with casa and others.  just to state this again, the attory general in utah claims there is no charges, no pending investigation, and whitmore is clear on all counts.  seems this is hard for some to digest, but that is it.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2005, 02:41:00 AM »
i just did a search on susan schaucher.  i dont think you are going to like what i pulled up. how dare you make up stories and slander the sudweeks when you have a past like this. i better check with my lawyer to see if it is legal for me to put this stuff up. you have just lost all credibility. It must be legal if you are doing all this crap to the sudweeks. i cant believe you
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2005, 03:07:00 AM »
Joyce Harris you are a one sick in the head lady. I was there when your daughter came and I was there when your daughter left. It's sad to know that she had to leave so soon she was a one messed up kid because of you and she sure could of used the help and being away from you really started to help her. She didn't get abused in any way you don't have to be mad just because the whitmore can't be run the way you want it to. stop going around sharing your tears :cry2:  with the whole world you are in this all by yourself
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2005, 03:21:00 AM »
WHEN MY PARENTS SENT ME TO THE SUDWEEKS THEY DIDNT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING. I HAD THE BEST TIME OF MY LIFE AND THE THINGS I LEARNED I HAVE USED TO THIS DAY. I TRY TO SEE THEM EVERY YEAR, AS ALOT OF US DO. I WAS SURPRISED WHEN THEY MOVED TO UTAH. THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE BOONIES FOR I THINK 20 YEARS. THEY WERE BURNED OUT OF CANADA. NO LITTERALLY! PEOPLE CAN BE TERRIBLE. THEY SHOT THEIR HORSES AND TOOK THE REST OF THE ANIMALS. DURING THE WINTER WHILE THEY WERE IN MEXICO, AND BRYAN WAS CARETAKING. ALL THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF A TROUBLED TEEN THEY HAD TRIED TO HELP. READ ABOUT IT. THAT BOY DIDNT HAVE TO PAY TO LIVE THERE OVER 5 YEARS EITHER. I LIVED WITH HIM. WHEN I READ THE STUFF YOU WRITE, I CANT SEE HOW ANYONE BELIEVES IT. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW. THESE PEOPLE DONT KNOW. THE PEOPLE IN CANADA STOLE, BURNED, DESTROYED ALL THEIR PRIVATE POSSESIONS.THEY STILL GO THERE WITH THE KIDS BUT IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. IT WAS THE SAME THING AS HERE WITH THE SLANDER. NOBODY KNEW THE TRUTH. AND THE ONES WHO DID WERE TOO AFRAID TO SPEAK UP. JEALOUS PEOPLE, BITTER PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE ANY IDEA, JUST STUPID GOSSIP. HEY GO SEE WHAT THEY DO IT WILL SHOCK THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF YOU. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DESTROY THESE GOOD PEOPLE? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND? SO FAR THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY THING BUT MAYBE HUMAN ERE. OUR PARENTS DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN WE WERE MAKING THEIR LIFE HELL. THEY ASKED CHERYL AND MARK AND THEY TOOK THE CHANCE ON US. NOW THEY ARE IN UTAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE GETTING SOME MONEY FOR THIS. GOOD FOR THEM. HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY THINK ALL OF WHAT THEY DO COSTS? WHY WOULD OTHER PROGRAMS BE SO MUCH MORE. CHECK IT OUT. LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD DEAL AT WHITMORE. WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO MAKE THEM LOOK BAD. WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE. DONT TELL ME ABUSE OF ANY KIND. BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT ISNT TRUE. AND DONT TELL ME BECAUSE ONE OF THE KIDS WHO LIVED THERE ONCE SAID THIS OR THAT. NOW THEY ARE THE PROVEN LIARS. AND DONT TELL ME BECAUSE THE PARENTS FEEL RIPPED OFF. DID THEY NOT CHECK IT OUT. WHY WOULD THEY HIRE SOMEONE ELSE TO TAKE THEIR KID THERE FOR THEM? WAS THEIR KID OUT OF CONTROL. THIS IS REALLY PRETTY EASY TO SEE, WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PEOPLE WITH THEIR EYES CLOSED. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SHUT THEM DOWN. LISTEN TO THE KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND START SEEING THE TRUTH. I CANT BELIEVE YOU THINK THOSE LIES ARE TRUE! THEY ARENT. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CHECK FOR YOURSELF. CALL D.C.F.S. IN SAN ANTONIO SEE IF JOYCE IS LIEING. THATS WHAT THAT EMAIL FROM HER SAID. SHE IS A LIAR. ANY ONE SUPPORTING THOSE LIES IS TOO. SO EVERYONE STOP LYING. READ ABOUT CANADA. IT DOESNT SAY MARK IS A LIAR! IT DOESNT SAY HE ABUSED ANY ANIMALS. IT SAYS HE OWNED THE PROPERTY SO HE IS RESPONSIBLE TO THE S.P.C.A. WHO BY THE WAY ARE TRYING TO KEEP A JOB. PRETTY CLOSED MINDED PEOPLE. I SAT IN COURT AND WATCHED THEM LIE UNDER OATH.  ALSO IF MONEY IS BECOMING THE ISSUE.WHY DONT YOU CHECK TO SEE HOW MANY KIDS WHO WERE ENROLLED ACTUALLY PAID THEIR TUITION. PUT SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER. ADD UP ALL THEY DO. AND YES THEY EAT 3 GOOD MEALS A DAY. I MEAN GREAT MEALS. MAYBE THERE ARE SOME KIDS WHO WANT TO LIE ABOUT THIS BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE 90 PERCENT ARE TELLING YOU THE TRUTH. DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY ARE BRAINWASHED? THAT IS THE BIGGEST JOKE OF ALL. WHEN I WAS THERE THE KIDS COULD LEAVE ANYTIME THEY WANTED. ITS NOT LIKE WHAT YOU THINK. AT ALL. IT IS A SCHOOL. A GOOD SCHOOL WITH CERTIFIED TEACHERS. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT YOU KEEP LYING ABOUT THAT TOO. YOU ARE SO FRUSTRAITING. HOW DUMB DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE. I GUESS THEY ARE PRETTY DUMB IF THEY DONT CHECK TO SEE IF YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. GO SEE FOR YOURSELF. MORMONS ARENT WHAT YOU SAY EITHER. IN CANADA, THEY DIDNT HAVE A CHURCH. WE HAD CHURCH IN THE LIVING ROOM. WHEN I SAW THEM IN UTAH, I SPENT THE NIGHT WITH THEM. THE KIDS DONT HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. WHAT YOU ARE LETTING THEM DO TO THEM ABOUT THEIR RELIGION IS SO WRONG. YET YOU COMPLAIN THAT MRS. HARRIS CONFIDENTIALITY WAS BROKEN. I CANT BELIEVE IT. YOU HAVE PICTURES OF THEIR SACRED GARMENTS. REMINDS ME OF PICTURES ON T.V. IN IRAQ WHEN THEY BURNED THE AMERICAN FLAG. MADE ME CRY. THIS MAKES ME CRY. FIRST CANADA NOW U.S. I CANT BELIEVE HOW STRONG THEY ARE. AND HOW MEAN SOME PEOPLE CAN BE. THEY TAUGHT ME TO LOVE. BUT I COULD NEVER BE AS STRONG AS THEM. PLEASE LEAVE THEM ALONE.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2005, 03:23:00 AM »
Dont speak to officer kimble like Joyce said too. talk to the cheif of police. you can know he truth. the Sudweeks are good people.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2005, 09:35:00 AM »
Bean, you just don't listen to those phone calls you get from Whitmore students, and please don't follow their advise to you, ok?
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2005, 02:44:00 PM »
Anon w/ the caps, don't you think it's funny that wherever these people go, everybody seems to be out to get them? Why is that?

And yes, the judge in Canada did state that he didn't believe Mark's testimony (either time around). He said that it looked to him like one long string of excuses.

Speaking of horses and conflicting stories, which is the truth about Leah's horse? Are the Suds sueing her for boarding her horse at the mansion? Or was it someone else's horse, which she stole? Or are they sueing her for boarding their own horse?

Obviously, one of more of these must be false because they can't all be true. So.... which is it?

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2005, 02:42:00 AM »
WHY DONT YOU READ THE WHOLE THING INSTEAD OF TAKING WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT WHICH I NOTICE YOU DO ALOT. THE JUDGE NEVER ONCE SAID MARK SUDWEEKS WAS A LIAR, HE SAID ALOT TO THE OPPOSITE. I CANT TELL YOU ABOUT THE GIRLS HORSE BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD, THERE IS NO QUESTION HEAR. WHY DO YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE A GIRL LIKE HER. WHY DID IT TAKE HER A YEAR TO DECIDE TO COME AND GET HER HORSE? DOESNT MAKE SINCE. WHATS WORSE THE SUDWEEKS WERE IN TOWN AND SHE KNEW THEY WERE AT CHURCH. I THINK ITS A BIT STRANGE, THAT SHE WAITED TILL THEY WERE GONE. AND THAT SHE TOOK THINGS FROM THE BARN THAT WERENT HERES. SHE ALSO LIED ABOUT THE POLICE BEING THERE. THEY TOLD HER FROM THE POLICE STATION TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE HORSE IF SHE COULD PROVE THAT IT WAS HERS, BUT IF SHE COULDNT OR IF SHE OWED THEM ANY MONEY SHE BETTER BE READY FOR COURT. THEY NEVER ESCORTED HER. OR ELSE THEY ARE LYING. ALSO WHY DID SHE CALL THEM TO BRAG ABOUT WHAT SHE DID. SHE SOUNDS LIKE A SPITFUL GIRL TO ME. KNOWING MARK I DONT THINK HE WOULD PRESS CHARGES WITHOUT TALKING TO HIS LAWYER. I THINK SHE WILL BE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING IF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE LAW, SAYS IF YOU LEAVE A HORSE LIKE LEAH DID, EVEN IF SHE DIDNT GIVE THE HORSE TO THEM SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEED AND CARE OF THE HORSE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE SHE WILL HAVE TO PAY UP. PERSONALLY IF THE HORSE IS AS UGLY AND OLD AS THEY SAY SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF TO LEAVE THE WHOLE THING ALONE. AND THEN SHE CALLED THE HUMANE SOCIETY. ALL THEY DID WAS CONFIRM THAT SUDWEEKS TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF ALL THEIR ANIMALS. SO THINGS ARENT WORKING OUT THE WAY SHE PLANNED ESPECIALLY IF SHE TOOK THINGS FROM THE PROPERTY AFTER TRESPASSING.
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2005, 03:01:00 AM »
Hey i was there. ya leah is more than spitful, I actually feel sorry for her. i still cant believe she was on x at Trins wedding. Thats because she was Jealous she wasnt in her line. It used to make me sick how Cheryl and Mark were so good to her and she would just stab in the back. I use to get Jealous of all the time Cheryl and Trin gave Leah. Its too bad she was so ungrateful, she had everything going for her. Why do you think she is still in Utah. Thats because Cheryl was trying to help her. But once Leahs grandma came into the picture Leah really changed. It was drugs and boys everyday and night. She was driving Trins truck for almost a year with no license. Her mom didnt know, until Cheryl told her. But im sure her grandma knew. No i know her grandma knew. I couldnt believe it especially as bad a driver as Leah was. Leah told us she hated her grandma because she could get her to do anything for her but that she would never tell her that because she spent so much money on her. Trins x was drivin down the road and she flashed him and begged him to take her to vegas. He wouldnt sleep with her so she dumped him. to tell you the truth i really doubt Trever ever liked her. She barely made it through school probably by lying to all her teachers. All the stores in provo and University mall watch when she comes in their stores because she is such a theif. She has a terrible reputation. Im sure she will leave Utah when she runs out of stores to steal from. Leah really did start to get it. Aaron used to just laugh at us because we all wanted to believe her lies to us about how sorry she was and how she wanted to change. She screwed him and every boy in the program over. It makes me mad because even after all this Cheryl said she still loves her and Casy. Thats Cheryl for you. She loves you too Elliot. I quess people like that always get treated like this. Look what they did to J.C.
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2005, 10:14:00 AM »
So Cheryl loves Leah, Casie and Elliott?
Sure GLAD she doesn't love ME!!!

She lies about Leah, calls Leah on the phone and threatens her, and then files a SLAPP suit against the girl for 5K just because SHE LOVES HER, HUH?

She sends emails to Casies, torments her on the phone night and day, lies to the girl's mother about her, makes the poor girls beat the hell out of her friends while at Whitmore just because SHE LOVES HER, HUH?

And poor Ellitott, she accuses him...like she does EVERYBODY of breaking into her computer at the Whitmore, tells him the FBI are after him, and then has kids call him and tell him to do the world a FAVOR and kill himself?? this is a fragile kid....JUST BECAUSE SHE LOVES HIM????

This lady does not know the meaning of LOVE..she knows how to manipulate and hurt kids and is a danger to KIDS.  Nothing about any of this is LOVE. These parents need to get a restraining order against Cheryl and the next time she contacts either of these kids she needs to be in jail!
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2005, 10:52:00 AM »
I have read the horse case transcripts. No, the judge didn't say: You lying S.O.B., you may never own an animal in Canada again! But I think its clear thats what he meant.
Have You read the transcripts?
Like to try and find a way to excuse all those starved horses and dogs?
Its an outrage and I can hardly believe you are defending people capible of such things. I keep wondering Why? Why?
Let me tell ya something else - I have worked for animal shelters and I know the extremes of neglect and cruelly required to get a person charged and convicted and it is only the most horrible that get a person forbidden to own another animal.
I have seen starved dogs and horses. I have work to try and save them  - I know just what was found in the Sudwick's Canadian fields; and its obscene and contemptible.
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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2005, 11:43:00 AM »
It is obsence about those horses and dogs in Canada. I am waiting for Mr. Fox at SPCA to report what care that horse in Nephi actually received for the "reported condition of colic."
He sent me an email that he was waiting for one of the two Vets the Sudweeks say they use to call him back about this horse that died in October 2004. I will email Mr. Fox today and ask him again if this horse was in fact treated for "colic."
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2005, 11:50:00 AM »
Buzzkill, you are correct--the learned judge in Canada did not call Mark Sudweeks a lying S.O.B. what he said in paragraph 27 of the Appeals case, which Sudweeks LOST was:

"To be blunt, I found Mr. Sudweeks' testimoney to be a litany of excuses.  Some were incredible and others merely very unconvincing. He did not reaise any reasonable doubts in my mind."  

Now that is a very NICE way to say: Mark Sudweeks is a liar, don't you think?
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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2005, 12:14:00 PM »
That's quite a tale.  There must be something strange in the air at Whitmore.
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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2005, 12:23:00 PM »
LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO J.C.?????????????
UOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!
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