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« on: October 16, 2002, 01:13:00 PM »
You are not going to close down Elan. I read the article in the Lewiston newspaper done on Elan and its practices.
From what i read, the state of Maine did research into Elan.
They concluded that the children attending Elan are in no danger, quite to the contrary, they were so impressed with the Elan program they decided to make recommendations for more students from Maine to attend.
These are sad times we live in, very sad.
I feel personally that there are bigger problems we must face.
By facing the fundamental issues at work in the current Elan situation, we might be able to pave a new way for the future.
Here are some thoughts, if marijuana became legalized in this country, there would be less children sent to Elan.
If more money was allocated in the Federal budget to combat needy families and orphaned children, less children would be sent to Elan.
If more money was spent on rehabilitation, rather than on incarceration, less children would have to go to Elan.

Perhaps, attacking the foundations of the bigger picture is a better way to fight Elan.
I have done extensive research into Elan as it operates these days , as well as many other treatment programs around the country.
I have found one common denominator, the government of this country thinks it is their responsibility to " save" everyone. In many cases I remember from attending Elan, more often than not it was the state sending kids to Elan, not their parents. They think that someone who smokes a joint is a criminal and needs immediate help.
Our ability to think outside the box is what separates us from the apes.
Maybe, just maybe, if someone or a large group of someones figures out how to convince our governing body that a majority of these so called "issues" and " problems" that face the youth of today aren't really problems at all, less people will have to endure the tortures of Elan.
In my opinion, until the government decides that it is wrong to try and brainwash the public into sheep, robots and unchallenging tax paying statistics, the Elan problem will never disappear, it will only pop up elsewhere.

Everyone who went to Elan knows that it is a terrible place and knows of all the horrible, unmentionable, bizarre things that happened there, tucked away and hidden in the endless woods of Maine.
The question is, are you really ready to change things for the better, or are you trying to seek some legal judgement and monetary gain, selfishly for your own greedy reasons.

I have said it here before in previous posts, if you have a heart in that empty chest cavity, it should be reaching out to the children suffering there right now.
Class action lawsuits and personal hidden agendas aimed at particular staff are feeble and foolish.
If you want to make things right, simply do the right thing.
Help people to free their minds.
I hear all the talk about how smart we are as a species as compared to animals. Are we really so smart?
I walk around this earth and most of the poeple who I meet are morons.
Anyone else see what i see?
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2002, 05:15:00 PM »
The question is, are you really ready to change things for the better, or are you trying to seek some legal judgement and monetary gain, selfishly for your own greedy reasons      HELL YA show me the money dosnt seem to me they had a hard time taking it from our hard working parents no guilt here what so ever...
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2002, 08:35:00 PM »
http://drugscience.org/
http://ssdp.org/

These two are a very good start.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2006, 11:51:00 PM »
dont be talking any shit about elan unless you went there and ACTUALLY the state did research and investigate elan and if u read it they say some intersesting things about the ring and the housing and the schooling.....obviously elan staff are also masters of bullshit and cover ups......i think you should do some real research and read through this site more and highlight all the things that real people who went there state about abuse...physical..but more importantly, mental.......if you want the real story about elan, talk to the people who lived it and then we can highlight some REAL ISSUES for you
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2006, 12:04:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-16 20:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"dont be talking any shit about elan unless you went there and ACTUALLY the state did research and investigate elan and if u read it they say some intersesting things about the ring and the housing and the schooling.....obviously elan staff are also masters of bullshit and cover ups......i think you should do some real research and read through this site more and highlight all the things that real people who went there state about abuse...physical..but more importantly, mental.......if you want the real story about elan, talk to the people who lived it and then we can highlight some REAL ISSUES for you"
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2006, 08:29:00 AM »
Had these investigations went on back in the 70's-early 90's, they would be saying totlaly different. Elan today is no where near what it was back then. I was in the era when policies started to fall obsolete, and rules got bent and eased up. After I left, Elan was forced somehow to put a no smoking ban in effect for all.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2006, 03:29:00 PM »
i dont know about 3 or 7, but 8 was bad as shit until at least 2001...we had rosenberg, nuff said
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 08:17:00 PM »
Rosenburg WAS physically abusive to at least 3 femals while I was there. He always did it in areas where no one could see. Example the garbage area. The man is bipolar and heroin has made his brain fuction irratically. Now that is not a man who should have the lives of troubled youth in his hands. He got off on humiliating people. If ANYONE things Rosenburg was EVER trying to help anyone you are dead wrong. That man got his in the 70's so he stuck around became a director and dished it out. He got off on humiliating people. It was fucked up. The man is sick, sick in the fucking head. Name one kid who's life has been touched in a good way because of marc. Well, now that is impossible.
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Re: Lemme shed some light on things for everyone!
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 04:17:17 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Rosenburg WAS physically abusive to at least 3 femals while I was there. He always did it in areas where no one could see. Example the garbage area. The man is bipolar and heroin has made his brain fuction irratically. Now that is not a man who should have the lives of troubled youth in his hands. He got off on humiliating people. If ANYONE things Rosenburg was EVER trying to help anyone you are dead wrong. That man got his in the 70's so he stuck around became a director and dished it out. He got off on humiliating people. It was fucked up. The man is sick, sick in the fucking head. Name one kid who's life has been touched in a good way because of marc. Well, now that is impossible.


i beg to differ as my long time friend was a student of Marc's and we had just
got back in touch after i met him and when she heard i was a close personal
friend of his, she almost cried with joy.   she said he helped her become the
successful adult she is today and is eternally grateful for his guidance and caring.
the Marc i know intimately and CURRENTLY see on a regular basis is nothing like
what most of the disgusting accusations are claiming and unless a person is able
to change themselves so totally at their subconscious as well as at theiur unconscious levels CONSCIOUSLY that nothing remains of the original psyche
this is NOT the man i know and care about deeply... and it is more than just
myself to vouch for him.. i have only seen kindness.. caring.. empathy and sympathy.. genuine affection and gentleness.. not one iota of anything resembling misogyny or misplace anger towards females and i can swear without a doubt
that Marc is not interested nor attracted to younger females having seen them
chase and hit on him personally.. even though they could see we were together
on a date i saw more than one try to give him her phone number which was promptly tossed away

so shed some light on yourselves... i am certain there is so much more decent
human emotions inside Marc and i have seen and felt them directed my way
often enough to know they are real and he is a wonderful friend and much more
to me
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 04:17:19 AM »
my apologies for duplicate postings.. i cant delete the extras so editing
with this
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2011, 04:22:08 PM »
Quote from: "voiceoftruth"
Quote from: "Guest"
Rosenburg WAS physically abusive to at least 3 femals while I was there. He always did it in areas where no one could see. Example the garbage area. The man is bipolar and heroin has made his brain fuction irratically. Now that is not a man who should have the lives of troubled youth in his hands. He got off on humiliating people. If ANYONE things Rosenburg was EVER trying to help anyone you are dead wrong. That man got his in the 70's so he stuck around became a director and dished it out. He got off on humiliating people. It was fucked up. The man is sick, sick in the fucking head. Name one kid who's life has been touched in a good way because of marc. Well, now that is impossible.


i beg to differ as my long time friend was a student of Marc's and we had just
got back in touch after i met him and when she heard i was a close personal
friend of his, she almost cried with joy.   she said he helped her become the
successful adult she is today and is eternally grateful for his guidance and caring.
the Marc i know intimately and CURRENTLY see on a regular basis is nothing like
what most of the disgusting accusations are claiming and unless a person is able
to change themselves so totally at their subconscious as well as at theiur unconscious levels CONSCIOUSLY that nothing remains of the original psyche
this is NOT the man i know and care about deeply... and it is more than just
myself to vouch for him.. i have only seen kindness.. caring.. empathy and sympathy.. genuine affection and gentleness.. not one iota of anything resembling misogyny or misplace anger towards females and i can swear without a doubt
that Marc is not interested nor attracted to younger females having seen them
chase and hit on him personally.. even though they could see we were together
on a date i saw more than one try to give him her phone number which was promptly tossed away

so shed some light on yourselves... i am certain there is so much more decent
human emotions inside Marc and i have seen and felt them directed my way
often enough to know they are real and he is a wonderful friend and much more
to me
Your friend is welcome to post all about how great Marc is...
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2011, 04:59:27 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2011, 01:03:15 PM »
Quote from: "Dethgurl"
Quote from: "voiceoftruth"
Quote from: "Guest"
Rosenburg WAS physically abusive to at least 3 femals while I was there. He always did it in areas where no one could see. Example the garbage area. The man is bipolar and heroin has made his brain fuction irratically. Now that is not a man who should have the lives of troubled youth in his hands. He got off on humiliating people. If ANYONE things Rosenburg was EVER trying to help anyone you are dead wrong. That man got his in the 70's so he stuck around became a director and dished it out. He got off on humiliating people. It was fucked up. The man is sick, sick in the fucking head. Name one kid who's life has been touched in a good way because of marc. Well, now that is impossible.


i beg to differ as my long time friend was a student of Marc's and we had just
got back in touch after i met him and when she heard i was a close personal
friend of his, she almost cried with joy.   she said he helped her become the
successful adult she is today and is eternally grateful for his guidance and caring.
the Marc i know intimately and CURRENTLY see on a regular basis is nothing like
what most of the disgusting accusations are claiming and unless a person is able
to change themselves so totally at their subconscious as well as at theiur unconscious levels CONSCIOUSLY that nothing remains of the original psyche
this is NOT the man i know and care about deeply... and it is more than just
myself to vouch for him.. i have only seen kindness.. caring.. empathy and sympathy.. genuine affection and gentleness.. not one iota of anything resembling misogyny or misplace anger towards females and i can swear without a doubt
that Marc is not interested nor attracted to younger females having seen them
chase and hit on him personally.. even though they could see we were together
on a date i saw more than one try to give him her phone number which was promptly tossed away

so shed some light on yourselves... i am certain there is so much more decent
human emotions inside Marc and i have seen and felt them directed my way
often enough to know they are real and he is a wonderful friend and much more
to me
Your friend is welcome to post all about how great Marc is...



SHE HAS POSTED ON HERE!!!  I will not put her name in my postings as
i will not divulge any detail that could possibly lead any of the obviously
disturbed and potentially vengeful or dangerous individuals i have seen
post here to his location.  I am NOT ashamed or embarrassed to have my
name or my picture associated with Marc in any way but i have no desire
to be harassed by any of them myself either.   I am PROUD to know him
and there is more than one picture of us together but not accessible by
any random psychotic person that i have control over though.  I wont take
even the slightest chance by revealing my friend's name either but she has
at least 50 posts on here and i just checked to make sure my facts were
correct before i posted this
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 02:33:05 PM »
So what is your purpose here beside dragging up 4 year old posts where your current BF is named?
Elan is closed.
I'm glad your in love with Marc but that does not really validate what people here have experienced in the past.
These are old comments posted by mostly anonymous ex-residents of Elan School.
It also makes you look really insecure. (for a MODEL this is)
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