Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore
If Parents Are Brainwashed, Where Do Whitmore Alumni Turn?
Anonymous:
If a person does the MATH there is big, big money to be had.
Apparently all morality and ethics fly out the window when the newed to be honest comes into play.
So disappointing. I would think illegal too.
Cayo Hueso:
--- Quote ---On 2005-03-01 22:25:00, Joyce Harris wrote:
"Guess I'm just one of those people that lives in a world where things are either black or white:
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Think we're all going at two sides of the same coin here. Joyce I dont' think anyone is arguing that what Sue and PURE are doing is wrong. The motivations behind it may vary, but no one is arguing (at least the rational people) that Whitmore and PURE are not living up to their claims. I think Antigen has a point though with Sue's and Sudweeks motivations though. I'm sure they believe they're the saviors of these children.
--- Quote ---They trust Cheryl because Sue trusts Cheryl and they trust Sue because she's so nice.
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This makes perfect sense to me knowing what I know about how people are sucked into personalities. These parents want to believe they're doing the right thing for their kids. They see some of the horror stories of WWASP, think they have the kinder, gentler answer and BAM! Guru in the making. So, Sue comes up with her answer....PURE. Sue apparently comes across to people as very caring and rational. When you read the story of what she went through with WWASP and she's telling parents that she'd NEVER let that happen to another kid, they want to believe her. Remember, these are parents who are already buying into all the fear mongering so they've become desperate to do SOMEthing but are afraid of the WWASP stories.
The Sudweeks, IMO, are just small time power trippers that in some twisted way also see themselves as the kids saviors. I think religion plays a bigger part in there situation obviously, but they're nowhere near what WWASP is in the sense of influence and power.
Bottom line....IMO....both bad...period.
If there is a God, he is a malign thug.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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Joyce Harris:
Alright, I'm trying to "get it."
So IF Sue Scheff is on this crusade to save all these children from mean ole WWASP programs, and she was a "true believer" in the Sudweek's so-called Christian-based-love-and-save-all-children-program...
And let's just give Sue Sheff a GREAT BIG OLD BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT that she never, ever knew the Sudweeks wwould EVER abuse a kid in any way:
Then UP TO THE MOMENT the investigation for child abuse began against the Sudweeks in Nov 2002.....then Sue Scheff could have backed off, let the investigators do their job---and if she had stopped referring kids to Whitmore until things were settled ONE WAY OR THE OTHER,
,,,Then Sue Sheff could have retained her little angle wings and walked away with her reputation as "the saviour of all children" still pretty much intact, right?"
(NOW most people know, this is a "fairy tale," because parents are talking and talking---and parents were complaining about their placements at Whitmore by Sue Scheff BEFORE this incident in November 2004,)
BUT, I was just trying to see if I was "getting it" and following the motivational LOGIC of how people like Sue Scheff and the Sudweeks think.
Joyce Harris:
correction: the investigation began in Nov 2004
Cayo Hueso:
Joyce.....Yes, I think that's what this statement was about. Not speaking for Antigen but it makes sense to me.
--- Quote ---Posted: 2005-03-01 22:05:00 That doesn't mean that any of the things you say are untrue. It's just amazing what people can do w/o inconvenient ethical or legal considerations when they think they've got some kind of higher calling.
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Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist
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