Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore
If Parents Are Brainwashed, Where Do Whitmore Alumni Turn?
Antigen:
I'm tellin' ya', a couple people answered that. They trust Cheryl because Sue trusts Cheryl and they trust Sue because she's so nice.
Those thing only apply to people who they don't trust. Get it? Just like my brother getting all the cash and effective rights to the land because he's working his program. Same shit, very slightly different wrapper.
History does not record anywhere or at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unkonwn without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.
--Robert A. Heinlen, American science-ficiton author
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Joyce Harris:
Antigen,
I'm sorry. But these PEOPLE, the Sudweeks, are running a business, and they make approximately $4,000 per student a month,and THAT IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY.
And these PEOPLE MAY BE A LOT OF THINGS...but they are not stupid.
And Sue Scheff refers most, if not EVERY, student to Whitmore, and she MAKES A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY.
And all three of THEM...Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks, and Sue Scheff all know that they are doing EXACTLY what Cayo is asking about:
Sue Scheff is referring kids to Whitmore that advertises on the internet TODAY that it isa fully accredited School, and it IS NOT.
The Sudweeks list a staff of "teachers" and 3 of them are their daughters who are not certificed teachers, one is a son-in-law, one is Mark's mother, one is a non-certified karate teacher, and Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks even list themselves as teachers, and they most certainly are not certified teachers. Three others teach trade courses: carpentry, mechanics, wood shop.
If Sue Scheff is not aware of this sham of a list of "teachers," she well should be.
The Sudweeks do not have a license to have therapy--so I ask the same question: What services does Sue Scheff offer these parents that she is referring to Whitmore?
Does Ms. Sheff disclose to her "clients" that the Sudweeks are being investigated for child abuse and sexual abuse? Does she disclose that the Sudweeks "surrendered their license to the State of Utah" amidst allegations and an investigation for child abuse? Does she disclose that the Whitmore Academy is NOT a fully accredited school? Does she disclose that the Sudweeks are operating the Whitmore Academy with only a license for a Bed and Breakfast, and that getting a license for a Private School is dependent on the Sudweeks securing full accreditation from the Utah Office of Education---which by the way is auditing the Whitmore Academy's "candidacy status of accredidation" at this time as directed by Dr. Patti Harrington,the Superintendent of the Utah Office of Education.
I think not. If Ms. Scheff tried to refer any parent to Whitmore Academy, and then did the correct and professional thing---and disclosed all of the above: Any parent with a brain would take their child and getfar away from P.U.R.E. and Whitmore Academy as fast as they could.
Joyce Harris:
The word "nice" and Sue Scheff are just not two words that go together for me.
No, I would not use this word to describe Ms. Scheff.
Antigen:
I was being facetious about the so nice part.
But the rest, I think, is also quite true. That doesn't mean that any of the things you say are untrue. It's just amazing what people can do w/o inconvenient ethical or legal considerations when they think they've got some kind of higher calling. This is the stuff wars are made of.
He that lives upon hope will die fasting
--Benjamin Franklin 1758
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Joyce Harris:
Guess I'm just one of those people that lives in a world where things are either black or white:
If you say you have a school:
Then is should be accredited,
And you should have Certified Teachers.
If you say you're running a Private School"
Then you ought to have a license for a
School, and not a Bed and Breakfast.
If you say you don't have a license to offer
Therapy, then you should not advertise that
you have a school that offers therapy.
If you say you don't accept students with a
History of violence,
Then: no gang kids are allowed.
If you say you don't us physical punishment,
Then for sure not PHYSICAL ABUSE is
EVER allowed.
Seems rather simple to me.
Wonder why Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks can't get it?
And if they can't follow simply rules, why would the "NICE" Sue Scheff refer any kids there?
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