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wtaylorg:
I remember being on the gate(door) from 82-85, and every once in a while a car would pull up and someone would get out of the car and take pictures of the Seed. While this was happening I would get Bob W. as I was told to do in a situation like this. I was almost always told by Bob to run out to the gate and find out what they wanted. It seemed like this person was always from Florida Dept of Trans.? Something like that.
Anyways, I guess the idea of the pictures was that DOT or some agency was wanting to run I95 where SR84 existed. Did this ever happen? And if so When? And if so, where did the Seed go after that? I have heard refeernces to Andrews Ave. Isn't that the place where the Seed originated.
Considering that Art has the ""gift" of instant awareness. shouldn't he have known that they were going to be kicked out of SR84?

Antigen:
A few years back I did an archive search on Art and The Seed. I found something to do w/ the DOT and eminent domain. Didn't want to spend the money (buck a page, I think) to print out the whole thing. But I think it was just as you say. They did widen SR-84 and made it a limited access part of the interstate system. It's I-75, though, not 95.

And they did move back to the S. Andrews building. I've driven by there before and seen the sign.
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Ft. Lauderdale:
88 or 89 I think. I wasn't around either. They were on Broward Blvd. for a year or two.  
Before moving back to Andrews Avenue.

Stripe:
The old four lane divided SR 84 that ran next to the canal is gone.  What's there now is a 8 lane east/west freeway called I-595 (Alligator Alley connecting Ft. Lauderdale with Naples, FL).  

The canal and homes are still there, but the Seed building and property on the south side of the highway is gone - it's just pavement now. I was down there yesterday on some business.   That large, gold pyramid is still there, and the small lake (rock pit) that was near the turnpike exit is now huge (several acres in size)SR 84 still on the south side of the highway, its just a parallel access road on the south side of the highway.

Anonymous:
Somewhere after '87 we moved from the St. Road. 84 building. I will never forget helping to fill up all those trucks late at night. We moved from that big, cold feeling warehouse to a small clinic-like office building that looked like a duplex. It use to be a dentist's offce right on Broward Blvd. There was hardly a parking lot, and if you can imagine the rap room was so small that if you were on the front row staff was literally in your face. Also, there was only one bathroom, unisex style. It was really like sitting in someone's apartment living room, where everyone sat in the group except the one staff member leading the rap in front. Even before the move, they stopped having staff members sit on the side of the group, they all sat in the group with the oldcommers (I guess to make the group look bigger). They would sit up front only when they led a rap. Then after about 2 years, we finally moved out of the samll clinic back to the Andrews Ave. house. Art and staff seemed to love it there since I guess that was the beginning of everything, but honestly the place was scary 'cause when you were in there you really got a good close look at people's faces and could tell that they were just a bunch of kid looking adults that had gotten a lot older as time passed. This was not normal. The building was a classical art deco architecture, but a hauntingly creepy old house.

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