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When did the Seed close on SR84?

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90's Guy:
By the way Wtaylorg, I was the one that walked what seemed like an eternity with you, passing out the Sound Mort. flyers. Remember how we got chased by dogs? Also, you and I were secretly in love wiith Madonna, but couldn't talk about her since she was so taboo in the group in the early 80's (so we would sing her songs all day, Borderline, Like a Virgin, Material Girl. . .)You would talk about how sexy she was, and so would I. I always remember one of the staffmembers tearing  her apart going on about what a "Whor.. that Madonna is." By the way I saw her recently with my boyfriend in Miami. She is still the Diva she always was in the 80's. She has slowed down a little but still has it in her. Anyway, you were always a super nice guy, enjoyed spending time with you. Hope all is well.

wtaylorg:

--- Quote ---On 2005-02-11 08:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Art and staff seemed to love it there since I guess that was the beginning of everything, but honestly the place was scary 'cause when you were in there you really got a good close look at people's faces and could tell that they were just a bunch of kid looking adults that had gotten a lot older as time passed. This was not normal. The building was a classical art deco architecture, but a hauntingly creepy old house."

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By kid looking adults, do you mean they (staff) tried to look young, but were just a bunch of middle aged people trying to seem cool and hip? Was there ever the idea that maybe they (group) needed to end this thing (Seed), which after reading many of these posts seemed to have really lost it's steam a long time ago? It seems long before I was even there. It must have seemed  pathetic to watch these people try to indentify with newcomers, when the world had passed Art & Co by many yrs ago.

Anonymous:
I remember when I first came into the Seed we were at the STRD 84. I remember being on gate duty and running out to the gate every time a car would show up. I used to enjoy when Bob W would tap me on my shoulder and would ask me to go outside and weed the front flower beds or paint something cause after a while I would get very freaked out in the raps.
 
  I can remember working and preparing the building on broward Blvd so we could move in but I have no recollection of the actual move itself. I cut alot of lawns while I was at the Seed and I got to say I had a good time with the guys I worked with. I still remember them all even after all these years. At night I worked at the insurance company entering data for a while. I still.
 
  I got chewed out by Staff once for getting into a fight with some asshole that started giving me a hard time. Bob W told me this had  not happened in years and I had to learn to control my Latin TEMPER.

 Hey Wtaylor I still have a Cal Ripken drawing you made for me packed away in a box in my closet with some other things I kept from my days at the Seed. Every once in a while I'll drive by on I-595 and without failure as I get to the area where the old Seed was I seem to go back in time and remember my times at the Seed.
 The STRD84 Seed I believe was where the Signature Gardens is at now because I can remember during the afternoon rap when I was a newcomer looking out past the rap leader past the truckers shed, past the trees into the power station.

cleveland:
These posts bring back so many memories. Here's where we spent our youth, sitting at the gate or door on SR84, weeding the flower beds, painting the awnings, doing night duty. Remember staying the night, doing rounds around the building every 20 minutes, eating some take out sub that gave you rank morning breath, watching the sun go down? Sometimes Dave R. would play the old piano in the back room and we would sing. Sometimes Jeff P. would have a guitar and we'd sing Teach Your Children well. We thought we were saving the world. I can't say it was a waste, because of what I learned about friendship, but what I learned about the world was all false. The only thing the seed taught was obedience to authority, and that is fine in the military but not so good in the real world, unless you have the willingness to challenge that authority when you find it to be wrong. Anyway, I can't believe that building is gone now I am sad to have my youth disappear...



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Wally Gator[ This Message was edited by: cleveland on 2005-02-14 09:18 ]

Anonymous:
I hold those memories to be very special. I got to say being one who did get to live my youth open and free and did more than my fair share of fucking off.
 I remember what I learned and how I learned very fondly. I had some good times with some good friends and even though it seems like all this happened another life time ago the lessons I learned there is what I use to this very day. I don't hold any resentment toward the Seed or anyone from the Seed on the contrary that is where I really grew up.
 The Seed was'ent perfect which became very apparent in my later years there but, it sure tried to be.

  Sometimes I wish I could go back to a better and simpler time.

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