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the real seed
GregFL:
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Yep, truer words were never spoken.
:grin:
Fran:
Greg...
I know you are right...because I remember visiting the St Pete seed in 73 or 74 and all the staff members I remember were there.
Tony Stark:
The "real Seed" isn't even a cult. It's already been sown. You think that little mustard seed around your neck meant something? Shit, I got a real tree I planted from outa the kitchen.It was just symbolic for me. It had nothing to do with a cult. I just like birds and they like mustard trees. :smokin:
Cult: A religion with no political power.
--Tom Wolfe, American author
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_You'd be surprized how much power these cults have over your minds. Especially religiuous people.________________
"This is a Republic"-VA Man.[ This Message was edited by: The Seeker on 2005-01-28 14:06 ]
Anonymous:
Was Straight just a reincarnation of the Seed? I have been reading these posts and honestly it sounds almost like Straight. I'm still a bit confused on the history of Straight and the people that brought it all together.
Antigen:
Yeah, essentially it is. After Art lost his NIDA expansion funding and the local papers were all ablaze w/ bizarre Seed stories, The Seed left St. Pete. A couple of years later, Mel and Betty Sembler (Brent's parents) along w/ half a dozen fellow parent group members founded Straight, Inc.
They used the Morgan Yacht building. They had former Seedlings as the first staff. They hung the 7 steps, the serenity prayer and the three signs on the wall. Probably kept the same "furniture", which I hear tell was crumbling to splinters already. They used much of the same lingo, though "chicks" was definitely out. There was no smoking. It didn't have a charismatic personality guru till Virgil Newton came along. Soon the headlines followed and Virgil went off, allegedly in a huff (though there's some doubt to the credibility of that story) to found Kids of North Jersey.
I thought it was just like the Seed only meaner and more regimented... even Straighter, if you know what I mean. But then, I was never in group at The Seed. I was just in one foster home (my house) and a whole bitch of a lot of open meetings, "volunteer" lunch making missions and such like that.
They came with a Bible and their religion- stole our land, crushed our spirit... and now tell us we should be thankful to the 'Lord' for being saved.
--Chief Pontiac, American Indian Chieftain
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