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landyh:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-22 14:54:00, Antigen wrote:
"I'm glad you came along too, landyh. I don't know anybody else but me who was involved at such a young age. Now, I never sat in on group, far less on those vaunted bar room stools (btw, they had those at Straight too... anyone else find that ironic?) But I was in on the endless clatches at Denny's after open meeing on SR 84 and a good bit of Programming in our home, around the diningroom table and whenever I tagged along w/ my brother and the New Crusty Nostrils.
I definitely remember the rush of having grown ups bow to my impressive "Awareness". Looking back, of course, I was such an obnoxious prig! But, what's done is done.
Also, I think you probably can answer some questions about the way things were before the ominous 1313 Andrews ave (well, 1315, actually... but the other way sounds better, uh?) There's a legend that the first group started out on Art's yacht tied up at the Playboy Mansion or some such. Any truth to that? Cause the way I remember Art's telling of it, he had started getting the building ready to open before the first Seedling ever arrived and found that his entire work crew were all druggies. So he sat them down and started feeding them beans or something along those lines. Which story is closer to the facts?
If quitting drugs means joining the war on terrorism, does this portend the fire bombing of Amsterdamn ?
--Felton Manifestation
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I don't mean to keep double replying to the same posts I just realized though that I didn't fully answer your question. First I was probably a little piggish no doubt as well but I still think in regard to my first experience that the validation and attention I recieved during that time has helped me to this day with some of the esteem issue that probably got me there in the first place. How old were you and what time frame did you go thhere in? The little house was much more in my mind AA oriented and this was partly because of the influence of Hap and Mavis I am not at all sure about this but I think pulling away to a greater degree from those AA roots may have been why Hap and Mavis left. I know something happened. Being in AA now and understanding how in spite of the personalities involved its loose framework is a large part of what makes it such a wonderful program and I think they made a mistake when they pulled away from that. I think we even passed the basket there I can't remember if that continued later as it does it AA. Hopefully more will come back to me because you guys have already triggered so much that I had forgotten.
Antigen:
Well, I was 5 or 6 when my brothers went in. Then I guess I was about 8 or 9 when my sister went and one brother returned. Meantime, the other brother married a staffer, Pam O (I seem to recall there were two Pam's) Why, you almost couldn't swing a cat around the Seed w/o hitting one of my kin square in the ass.
Then when I was 16, I landed up in Straight. John later told me that my parents had been trying to get me into the Seed for awhile and to get my sister started over because of a poor romantic choice.
So basically, even though I wasn't in group, it followed me around like a dark cloud. All the other kids knew, I wasn't really allowed to associate w/ non-seedlings. That left one friend, a boy 4 years younger than me by virtue of his brother having been a Seedling in good standing.
To put one toe over the line in any way, intentionally or not, was unthinkable, though I didn't have quite as much surveilance to worry about once my sister graduated highschool.
sunday school: A prison in which children do penance for the evil conscience of their parents.
--H. L. Mencken, American publisher
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Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82
TheWho:
Anyone here at watkins glenn in '73? I think we walked 5 miles from where we parked, remember the rain and almost every set. I dont think they can pull that off anymore, too bad.
landyh:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-22 19:31:00, Antigen wrote:
"Well, I was 5 or 6 when my brothers went in. Then I guess I was about 8 or 9 when my sister went and one brother returned. Meantime, the other brother married a staffer, Pam O (I seem to recall there were two Pam's) Why, you almost couldn't swing a cat around the Seed w/o hitting one of my kin square in the ass.
Then when I was 16, I landed up in Straight. John later told me that my parents had been trying to get me into the Seed for awhile and to get my sister started over because of a poor romantic choice.
So basically, even though I wasn't in group, it followed me around like a dark cloud. All the other kids knew, I wasn't really allowed to associate w/ non-seedlings. That left one friend, a boy 4 years younger than me by virtue of his brother having been a Seedling in good standing.
To put one toe over the line in any way, intentionally or not, was unthinkable, though I didn't have quite as much surveilance to worry about once my sister graduated highschool.
sunday school: A prison in which children do penance for the evil conscience of their parents.
--H. L. Mencken, American publisher
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Sounds like they were'nt going to give you a chance to need the seed. Islolated and guilty by association hell yea you might as well have used and joined just to have more friends. I'm sorry for your trouble. I see you have family here too. Kinda neet. I hope I can get my sister here. She drug me along the first time out of guilt and we were both kidnapped the second. I went home before her and I was so excited when she came home. She ran away that night at 16 and I didn't see her for a very long time by the time my dad found her she was emancipated. So I have some great memories too.
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Anonymous:
Landy can you describe how you came to be chosen to lead raps at such a young age? did it have to do wit u cute loks and r u still cute?
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