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Sorry Folks, the Seed helped me!!!
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-08 08:09:00, Jimmy Cusick wrote:
"I cant belieive I've heard so much anger about the seed program. They saved my ass.
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Really Jimmy? Lets explore some of your own words on this website...
"I really bought into the brainwashing, I thought we were going to reach out and save the world. I stayed clean and sober for 5 years so that was a good thing but I continue to resent art barker for what he did to kids."
"Glad I found this, havent thought about the brainwashing in years"
"I remember eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and watered down cool-aid (1 cup)."
"he told us that we would save the world,(I believed him). Art was our higher power"
"I rememeber Suzy Conners telling me to stand up and the entire group ripped me a new ass for the whole afternoon and I had to start over in the front row. Someone had turned me in for being in a bad mood"
" As a seedling I thought we were the choosen ones and I looked down upon everybody else."
"I rememeber sitting on those hard chairs at the seed on Alligator Alley from 10:00 in the morning until 10:00 at night."
"I was never a drug addict, actually I just experimented with pot and L.S.D."
"I was never accepted for who I was, I had to be a phony and pretend to be all "bubbly" about the seed."
" I was successfully brainwashed for a few years and it took me a while to realize it was all about Art Barker becoming a wealthy Guru."
"What a mind-bending experience we all had."
"I remember singing lots of songs (some of them were "I love Art" or "We love Art") How Cultlike."
So Jimmy, is it your contention that as a 15 year old non addicted kid, you needed a brainwashing cult that only would give you a little food and watered down cool-aide and make you worship a guy that isolated you from the normal world and told you you were going to save the world?
Do you not find it a little strange that you went in non-addicted and now are fighting addiction 30 years later but yet keep repeating the Seed "saved your ass"?
These are legit questions here Jimmy..I am very interested in your answers. Thanks.
Jimmy Cusick:
well eggplant brain(anonymous that can't use a name) tell me what the seed has to do with what happens in your personal life 30 years after the fact. You have no clue what my life is about.
Gregg, that was an interesting list, the first thing I thought of were my days in the Marine Corps. I hated it with all my guts. Blood, sweat and tears(No pun intended). To this day I am proud to have been a jarhead. Imagine that.
Carry that over to my seed experience.
Of course the chairs were hard, security at the doors, Art was a megalo-maniac but the seed saved the pathetic ass of this 15 year old kid and I'm proud to have been a seedling.
The seed mirrors the corps in that they were both successful at their purpose. I survived both, that strenghened me to carry on the fight on a later day.
Day 54 but who's counting
GregFL:
Jimmy with all due respect you are using no logic at all.
You were not addicted before you went in. Yet you say it "saved" you.
You are now an "addict" after the seed. what the hell were you "saved" from?
And the marine corps comparison doens't hold water. The differences are HUGE.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-08 10:02:00, Jimmy Cusick wrote:
"well eggplant brain(anonymous that can't use a name) tell me what the seed has to do with what happens in your personal life 30 years after the fact. You have no clue what my life is about.
...
The seed mirrors the corps in that they were both successful at their purpose.
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Well, if the purpose was to convince you that you were, are and ever shall be worthless except by virtue of your status in the group and that anyone who questions that is worthy of disdain and abuse, the Program seems to be working beautifully for you.
But the fact remains that, just like my brother, who landed on front row at the age of 14 and w/o an addiction, you seem to be struggling to this day w/ both addiction and fidelity to the Program.
What has the seed got to do with what happens in your personal life 30 years after the fact?
I think it's a question of interest to virtually everyone who reads and posts here. Am I correct in assuming that you're currently invilved w/ XA style treatment? If so, do you think your involvement in The Seed 30 years ago has had anything to do w/ your choosing that particular type of treatment now?
I turned to speak to God, About the world's despair; But to make bad matters worse, I found God wasn't there.
--Robert Frost, American poet
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Ft. Lauderdale:
Jimmy, I have racked my brain trying to remember your face. I was there when the seed opened in cleveland in 1975. Of course I was there before that too in Lauderdale. I definatly remember your name. Do you remember an extremely good looking guy blonde staff member? That was me. just kidding I needed a little humor here myself ::bigsmilebounce:: now I'm a balding even past middle aged guy(now if I live to be a hundred I am middleaged)Jimmy I wish you well. By the way Antigen drives me nuts,( I may drive her nuts too) for some reason Greg I kinda like. Wally Gator is a good friend. I just wanted to say that.
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