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Sorry Folks, the Seed helped me!!!
Ft. Lauderdale:
The seed saved my ass too... No I was not a junkie... no I was not adicted to anything... It saved me from myself... Greg or Antigen I don't believe either one of you were ever suicidal? Maybe I'm wrong. But if you ever hated yourself so much that all you wanted to do was die -then you would know what some people are talking about when they say "the seed saved my ass" this is my interpertation anyway...The seed showed me how to live ...with myself and others ... how to survive...how to thrive.. all this without a suicide attempt..I really don't think I had it in me without the help-------no I don't think I was brainwashed into beliving that---------I did have ups and downs mine were just kinda a little up and alot of downs. If I didn't have support I would have fallen flat on my ass- My honest opinion. I never had kids but I have 16 neice's and nephews. One is away at college with a pierced tongue. She's a straight a student a good kid just has a wierd tongue as far as I'm concerned. I think ( I hope )she will do fine (at least she doesn't wear black nail polish and fishnet shit. Now I've got one nephew that if the seed was still around (yes one out of 16)that
I think the program would be great for- & no I don't know if he ever has tried any drugs probably has I really don't know-----but him I worry about--- I like the kid -he likes me - he actually thinks I'm cool-somehow. I keep my eye on him ...I'm hopping for the best--- by the way my senior of highschool I attended maybe once or twice a week- skipped school hung around with some real deadbeats. I wnt back to school after to finish my senior year- my grades all improved tremendously. I was involved in class - felt confident(for once) I just thought I'd throw that in there. I got to go-----later :wave:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-08 13:55:00, Ft. Lauderdale wrote:
If I didn't have support I would have fallen flat on my ass- My honest opinion.
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Well, I might say the same thing. Except that, through my parents' involvement and devotion to the Program, I did lose my family supports. Fuck `em, I made it anyway!
I can see where the Seed may have been not quite as bad as some other likely alternatives for some people. But can you see where it really fucked things up for some of the rest of us?
Forgive, O Lord, my little joke on Thee and I'll forgive Thy great big one on me.
--Robert Frost, American poet
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
Seed sibling `71 - `80
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
10/80 - 10/82
Anonymity Anonymous
Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.
Fran:
That was an interesting point Greg made...ironic that most of us were not addicts going into the seed but years later at least 1/2 have addiction problems. Or addictive personalities.
I think I remember the We love Art song but I have blocked out alot of stuff and only when I read about something here in this forum does it come back faintly.
Greg..I have a question? How wealthy did Art get off the seed?
Why did we say we love you to everyone? I remember saying that constantly to the point I was saying it to strangers...weird!! At times I don't want to remember these things that come to mind yet I can't stop reading everyones comments everyday. I think in ways I was more affected by the seed then I thought...why else have I blocked it out for so many years until now?
Ft. Lauderdale:
Antigen- Didn't your family stop being invloved with the seed in like 1979 or so? If that is the case... thats like 25 years. My mother doesn't even remember who Art barker is? Of course I have explained my mother to you in the past. Actually my mom after divorcing my Dad 20 years ago- being on her own- got off her meds completely - although she sees doctors constantly for everything else under the sun- actually is happy now- or happier than I've ever seen her- ofcourse an Aunt left her much better off financially. It is amazing what a few bucks can do for the ole moral. She may even be happy she outlived the ole man too. who knows? But anyway my point is - 25 years- didn't that even change anything out for you. It still bugs me that you had all these problems and you were never on the program. Before my Dad went to AA- I did tell him to basicly f--- off. But we reconciled years later. I have one brother thats a Baptist Minister- with a prison ministry in central FL. Talk about extreme- we were raised catholic - grew up in Miami across the street from a Baptist church that Anita Bryant would sing at (anti gay activest 20 -30 years ago person) we thought this place was odd with adults getting baptized in a big pool behind the alter. Growing up we thought really strange behavior was going on there. This brother was the last person you would have ever thought would wind up a Minister. What the hell is my point? I guess so much shit can happen with time that you can always see through the shit eventually. I can see good and bad every day in everything. This brother has eight kids. Home schooled well travelled (due to missionary stuff -orient & eastern europe) I think my brother is alittle strange but I have to say when I get around him and his family these kids are so nice and well behaved 2 are adults with kids of their own. They are legitimately nice people and kids and I walk away thinking everytime - that they are good and well adjusted. Besides tring to save me every once in a while. I think they have probably given up on that though. ::bigsmilebounce::
Ft. Lauderdale:
Sorry -there was never a We love Art song. There once was a song that the group made up for Art & Shelly's 3rd or 4th anniversary, that was a little corny that Art wanted us to stop singing after a while.
"art b & shelly -shall we tell you haow we feel -you have given us your treasures- we love you so oooo. ect We also gave them a giant stuffed gorillia to go along with the song - we wre a bunch of kids. ::bigmouth:: ::bwahaha::
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