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cleveland:
Doing anything outside of the approval by the Seed hierarchy was flat wrong, and you risked being expelled. There was some leeway for high status people, who could have a bit more freedom than the typical oldcomer. But the run-of-the-mill seedling devoted their time 100% to the group. Work, rap session, baseball/football, home - ALL with other Seed people. No, there was no dating unless Art approved of it - not without being asked to leave the group. No, there were no vacations that I was aware of. Here I was in south Florida, and I only went to the beach with the group to play football, I never sailed or hiked or water-skied. ONCE, (in 7 years) I went with a group of guys to Key West and snorkled, and ONCE fished in the Everglades. Both times with high-status former staff members. NEVER on my own - NEVER with a non-Seed friend. Never had a date, went to a concert, wore a non-Seed t-shirt, visited a museum, had a picnic! SEX - are you kidding me? you mean with someone other than my right (maybe left) hand? And that was 'having my head in the gutter' so I felt guilty about it too. I traded my freedom for the security of being 'loved' and the promise of developing a 'higher awareness' and 'saving the world.' In return, I had a non-stop schedule of work, chores around the house, and 'helping out' around the Seed.
SURE, we played ping-pong, watched TV, and other 'normal' activities. Amish? No, but it's not too far off...
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-27 07:47:00, cleveland wrote:
There were yearly 'talent shows' and kids would practice for those.
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Kids? Did everybody refer to non staff as kids? Or were there actually minors there?
The last struggles of a great superstition are very frequently the worst.
--Andrew Dickson White (1832-1918)
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cleveland:
There were minors. The age range of newcomers was as young as 12 or 13, on up to early 20s, a few a bit older. There weren't too many though. We called ourselves "Seed Kids" but I would have never called a staff person a "kid." Staff were turning 35 when I was there, which seemed unbelievably old. Jr. staff were early 20s. Art was 54 years old when I came in in 1979 - just eight years older than I am now! Yikes!
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-27 12:58:00, cleveland wrote:
"Doing anything outside of the approval by the Seed hierarchy was flat wrong, and you risked being expelled.
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Oh that I understand. I remember sitting all alone in front of the Straight building on Cattlemen Road waiting for a school bus. I was feeling scared and maybe a little guilty (or maybe into my head about not feeling guilty?) that someone might catch me humming a Rod Stewart song. Rock? Hardly. But what can I say, it was stuck in my head that day. (It was Maggie Mae, maybe there was a reason)
Anyway, I should have quoted more context.
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-25 10:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
--- Quote ---"but when I went to South Broward in Hollywood forget it. I was ridiculed, pushed, books pushed out of my arms, one time in art class when the teacher left the room a few kids took a paint brush with paint and painted my face...all the time calling me brainwashed, seedling. I can not forget that. And defend myself..how could I..I wasn't allowed to talk to them much less fight them or push them away. ::bangin:: :grin: "
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I wonder if the person who posted this would answer my question. Not trying to be combative here. (had my fill of that in the Straight forum lately) I'm just curious what this person was scared of before they got pissed.
A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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Ft. Lauderdale:
So Wally were you ambedectrious with any other sports or anything ::drummer::
I had to say it.
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