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Ican'tTalktoYou:
Greg, There is a difference between being a "seed reject" and rejecting the seed. The former insinuating that one is inferior, defective and a failure. The latter suggesting that you know better and reject the seed and their bullshit dogma.
I am sorry I apparently don?t ?get it? and haven?t, as you said, ?been gracious enough to really listen to what happened to us rejects?. However, you saying ?rejecting the seed did not make you a failure in your life? is precisely what I was saying.
Sometimes you sound like staff. You certainly evoke some of those old feelings from me. Thanks a bunch.
Fran:
Anon....you seem to know alot. Please fill us in on what you know. Why is Lybbi not with Art and Shelly anymore? Were you part of the staff at one time?
I know there are people that read this forum that can spread some light on what really went on behind the scenes.
Help us here...we need to know.
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2005-01-24 08:33:00, Ican'tTalktoYou wrote:
"Greg, There is a difference between being a "seed reject" and rejecting the seed. The former insinuating that one is inferior, defective and a failure. The latter suggesting that you know better and reject the seed and their bullshit dogma.
I am sorry I apparently don?t ?get it? and haven?t, as you said, ?been gracious enough to really listen to what happened to us rejects?. However, you saying ?rejecting the seed did not make you a failure in your life? is precisely what I was saying.
Sometimes you sound like staff. You certainly evoke some of those old feelings from me. Thanks a bunch.
"
--- End quote ---
sorry, I never intended that. Listen, when you left the seed, they made you a reject. that is all I was saying. I think you make some great points, and again I apologize for any negativity you may have gotten from me.
I think you may have slightly missed my point about "those being gracious enough". I was specifically talking about seed supporters that have listened. That to me is really something special because these guys were trained to reject everyone that rejected the seed. I did not mean it as a slight to you and I regret it came across that way to you.
Have I mentioned I freaken love your username?
:grin:
Ican'tTalktoYou:
I understand Greg.
However, sometimes I wonder about my sensitivity level. Could it have been heightened because of all the yelling and put downs during all that time at seed? It would have to take a toll after a while, whether one is consciously aware of it or not. Wouldn?t you think?
Anyway, I just wanted to be supportive and uplifting to Survivor. Writing this stuff down can be very cathartic and unnerving at the same time.
As far as my username is concerned.....I can vividly remember the first time I had to say that to someone at school. My mouth felt like it was full of saw dust and I could feel the blood draining from my face. Yikes.
GregFL:
I too remember my first day and first week back to school. It was also my entry into high school...9th grade. Over the summer HUNDREDS of kids from Baypoint Junior high and Lakewood had been sent to the seed,and the first day was open season on us. Jokes, ridicule, yelling in your face...everything was game. Meanwhile many kids got in trouble from other seedlings telling on them for things they did. It was a very unnerving, horrible experience for me...I didn't know which direction I was gonna get it from, and I felt all were my enemy, that I was pretty much alone in the world.
I understand your sensitivity. It seems many seedlings are overly sensitive and quick to jump on others. Yes I believe for some of us is a product of what we went thru. I am the same way and have been consciously trying to change it.
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